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Israel needs to immediately make clear that any country attempting to carry out these illegal warrants will be treated as if they attempted a kidnapping and hostage-taking of an Israeli official. And start sending Netanyahu around the world with a security force that can repel such an attempt.

Receiving countries can deny visas. Foreign citizens don't have a right to travel to other countries.

Such an action by the ICC I think would make Netanyahu persona non grata in most of Europe. They won't arrest him but that means to not having to arrest him and being exposed as hypocrites (a bunch of African states right now are salivating at the notion of European states being forced by law to arrest a foreign leader and choose not to), they just won't let him fly or travel there. The U.S. won't do anything to Netanyahu, but that's quite the long plane trip from Tel Aviv to New York and Netanyahu and his ministers would be even more effectively isolated internationally.

If Netanyahu flies to the U.S. and he is under ICC criminal charges and we choose to do nothing, then the U.S. can never say anything "ICC" again in any circumstance and have it be worth ten cents.

Any country who is a signatory to the Rome Statute would be obliged to arrest him.

Didn't really work in South Africa with the Sudanese leader did it?

That would be a middle ground that would likely still have severe diplomatic consequences, both with Israel and the US, but not nearly the dangerous pandora's box that would ensue if any of these countries tried to detain Netanyahu or Gallant.

Way back in 2016, when all polling, prognostics by pundits and overall political climate point out to a clinton blowout, I already knew she was in trouble early in the night when the margins in rural Kentucky and Indiana where lopsided for Trump. That was all confired when Ohio was called before states in the west coast closed at 11PM EST and the margin was almost 10% when just the day before a columbus dispatch (gold standard for Ohio) showed a 1% Clinton edge.

Last I checked however, we are not the UK. The UK also has a King; shall we be like them in that regard too?

MTG was wrong for stirring the pot, Crockett was wrong for equally immature response. Both should be punished. What is the point of having standards, rules, or any guidelines if they are not going to be followed? Saying both are wrong doesn't make you a bad person or somehow make you a supporter of MTG. It's okay to sometimes drop partisan blinders and say someone you like is wrong.

1. The UK having a King is completely irrelevant to what I said.

2. I mentioned that other countries besides the UK have even worse things happen in their parliament.

3. Democrats strategy of "going high" while Republicans "go low" is tired and weak strategy based on a false sense of "decorum".

4. This was just a one time incident, Rep. Crockett had enough and was pointing out Republican hypocrisy. She did nothing wrong. You can feel however you want but it doesn't matter.

Israel should tell the ICC any attempt to arrest Israeli officials will be treated as a declaration of war and we should tell the ICC that we support Israel in doing that

I would say they would be better off communicating that to the countries the ICC would try to turn into their enforcement agents.

Did I forget anyone?

Stefanik

My brain is having trouble parsing that X post lol.

I'll take your word for it.

And we have a new poll out today as well. This of course included Zuma's party. ANC still under 50% but with a slight bounce compared to that Ipsos poll.

https://www.enca.com/videos/2024-elections-latest-enca-poll-puts-ancs-support-434

Michigan doesn't close until 8 PM, but I'd keep an eye on Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor). If Biden isn't over 70 here he's likely to lose the state (and thus the election). If there's going to be a massive movement of young college voters away from Biden due to Gaza, Washtenaw will be ground zero.

Not voting over that is truly stupid.

we should tell the ICC that we support Israel in doing that

Will ensure Biden loses his re-election.

American voters are way more pro Israel than pro Palestine . Biden being pro Palestine would ensure he loses reelection.

Democrats are not and most Republicans are not going to vote for Biden no matter what his Israel/Palestine policy is.

[the rest of the world can easily point out the laws don't apply to western countries and their allies.]

https://twitter.com/jdiamond1/status/1792508517544243416?s=12

Israel officials themselves said out loud that Israel is committing genocide.

ICC was forced to do it.

The crime is so blazon that if ICC don't do it, the rest of the world can easily point out the laws don't apply to western countries and their allies.

We can? We’ve been doing that since the conflict began! And we will keep doing it because the difference in treatment is extremely obvious.

You’re right that ICC was forced to do this, especially after the precedent of Putin being condemned by same court at a muuuuch faster rate than anybody moved anything to condemn Netanyahu.

They clearly don’t want to hold Israel accountable but they kinda have to in order to protect their relevance within the Global South under risk of becoming a joke that works AGAINST them, only stimulating more countries to leave the ICC.

Hot take: Both Putin and Netanyahu condemnations are very wrong in the sense the court is egregiously overstating their reach. It’s absolutely ridiculous to establish that country leaders cannot have diplomatic visits to another country (otherwise they’re jailed) because they’re at war.

A Netanyahu condemnation would soften perceptions of disgusting Western Double Standards, but the general dissatisfaction of an International Court feeling empowered to dictate to countries which main leaderships can or cannot be received is always going to be seen as interference on national business.

You will have both the Westerners pissed that their relation with Israel is directly affected by not being able to receive the Israel leader AND the Global South pissed about westerners lecturing about their relations with Russia.

Sometimes these silly theatrics are just counterproductive for everyone. I don’t think the Netanyahu condemnation solves anything regarding the conflict and dissatisfaction towards the ICC will remain.