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« on: October 14, 2009, 11:29:17 PM »

Justa small tip: space out between paragraphs.

Thanks. My computer was being a pain in the butt so i posted as is. Do you like it so far?

Word should do it no problem, I definatley like where your going with this one HC. Writing a timeline in Biography format is something I haven't really seen done before. Can't wait to see what 'ol Pappa Joe has instore for Joe Jr, once he gets back to Massachusetts and his future politcal career. Keep it comming HC
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2009, 12:59:53 PM »

Nice Installment HC, Sounds like "Fighting Joe Jr." might go for the Governorship of Massachusetts in '56(I really like the alternate Political Path, instead of having him follow JFK's role IOTL), since he does seem like he would like the executive role much more than being one of 50 senators lol. Keep it comming.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2009, 02:26:15 PM »

Awesome, now that Joe's got his hands on the Governership; It'll be really up to him to decide to run in 1960. Nixon(Or it would be cool to see a multi candidate field in 1960 due to butterflies) if he goes up against anyone other than Kennedy, he'll win and win big. It might be cool to see him wait out for 1964, maybe get the VP Spot and presumptive nominee status if the Dem's go down in defeat in a close election. Keep it comming HC
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 11:11:16 PM »

Johnson/Kennedy in 60!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 01:35:30 PM »

Awesome update HC, although I would have liked so have seen more information about the 1960 Republican Nomination like did Nixon get a challenge from either Rockefeller or Goldwater or who was his running mate? Can we also get a quick electoral map 2? But anyway's im looking for the 1964 race...Keep it comming.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 02:12:19 PM »

Shoot, I was really hoping Ol'Tricky Dick would be Assassinated ITTL, that way Henry Cabot Lodge would have to run against the Kennedy Machine(which he never did IOTL, and knowing how lackluster of a campaigner he was, it would be a Democratic Landslide). Joe with a strong record as a two term Governor of a Northern State is automatically the front runner. I am interested in whether or not an Carteresque Nixon(In terms of approval ratings) would face a challenge from Goldwater or Rocky in '64(Im thinking theyll wait for '68 or 72)...Keep it comming
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 11:44:06 PM »

Awesome...I see HC, that you couldn't help yourself having an alt Johnson vs. McCarthy vs. Kennedy race lol. Can't wait to see what happens in the General Election with Nixon/Lodge(who might have declined reelection due to his advanced age and lackluster campaigning...Scranton would be a much better pick up) vs Kennedy/Smathers...Keep it comming.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 08:14:28 PM »

Awesome update with the installments, I wasn't expecting the '64 race between Nixon and Kennedy to be such a close race due to Dick's unpopularity...love the maps so Keep this TL going
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 12:02:40 AM »

Well let's hope that "Broadway" Joe Kennedy is successful in making a long term Manned Space Exploration program for NASA unlike OTL's Apollo program...btw HC, could we get a list of the members of Kennedy's cabinent.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 10:52:47 AM »

Hmm, I wonder how the Hawkish Joe will handle the Urban Riots/Rise of Black Nationalisim and the growing Anti-war Movement...Keep it comming HC
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 12:22:02 PM »

I expect a full epilouge and ALT Presidents lists when this TL offically ends HC, No Exceptions!!!LOL, JK with The Cuban War successfully coming to a close just in time for the 1968 Election...Will he face a challenge from McCarthy(Maybe other doves like McGovern, or Proxmire) like Johnson did IOTL? Can't wait to see who the GOP offers up to rung against JPK(Goldwater probably)...Keep it comming.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2009, 02:22:30 PM »

Damn...Poor Ol' Rocky couldn't even win his home state lol, was MLK still in assassinated ITTL '68? Can't wait to see what happens in Joe's second term...Keep it comming
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 01:08:09 AM »

Am I the only one reading this great timeline??? Although JPK's legacy package sounds well and good but IDK, inflation with the Cuban War drawing to a close is going to put ahalt in many of his plans...So the '70's economic picture might not look too different after alll...Keep it comming HC?
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 01:07:20 PM »

Wow, it was definatley a tough year for Joe...Hopefully things will look up for the Kennedy's as they enter the last couple of years of his Presidency.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »

His Father’s Son: POTUS List

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-April 12th 1945*
33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1953

34. Dwight D. “Ike” Eisenhower (R-NY): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
35. Richard M. “Dick” Nixon (R-CA): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1965

36. Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy Jr. (D-MA): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20th 1973-January 26th 1979*
38. Claude R. Kirk Jr. (R-FL): January 26th 1979-January 20th 1981

39. Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
40. Guy A. Vander Jagt (R-MI): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
41. Lawrence Douglas Wilder (D-VA): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001**
42. Lee Hamilton (D-IN): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005

43. John S. McCain III (R-AZ): January 20th 2005-???

Notes

37. Died in office due to a massive heart attack
41. First African American President

His Father’s Son: VEEP List

33. Henry A. Wallace (D-IA): January 20th 1941-January 20th 1945
34. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): January 20th-April 12th 1945

Vacant: April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
35. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. Henry C. Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1965

38. George A. Smathers (D-FL): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
39. Claude R. Kirk Jr. (R-FL): January 20th 1973-January 26th 1979
Vacant: January 26th 1979-January 20th 1981
40. Robert C. Byrd (D-WV): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Robert H. Finch (R-CA): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Lee Hamilton (D-IN): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Barbara L. Boxer (D-CA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005**

44. Alberto R. Gonzalez (R-TX): January 20th 2005-???**

Notes.

43. First Female/Jewish Vice-President
44. First Mexican American Vice-President

His Father’s Son: Defeated Tickets

1944: Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John Bricker (R-OH)
1948: Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA)
1952: Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL)/John Sparkman (D-AL)
1956: Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL)/Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
1960: Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy Jr. (D-MA
1964: Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/William W. Scranton (R-PA)
1968: Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY)/Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)
1972: George A. Smathers (D-FL)/Morris K. “Mo” Udall (D-AZ) ; Dr. Martin L. King Jr. (I-GA)/Eugene J. “Gene” McCarthy (I-MN)
1976: Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA)/Dale L. Bumpers (D-AK)
1980: Robert J. “Bob” Dole (R-KA)/William S. Cohen (R-ME)
1984: Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX)/Robert C. Byrd (D-WV)
1988: Joseph R. “Joe” Biden Jr. (D-PA)/Martha L. Collins (D-KY)
1992: Jack F. Kemp (R-NY)/Carroll A. Campbell (R-SC)
1996: Nancy L. Kassebaum (R-KA)/George V. Voinovich ; Patrick J. “Pat” Buchanan (C-VA)/James L. Buckley (C-CT)
2000: Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT)/John E. “Jeb” Bush (R-FL)
2004: Lee Hamilton (D-IN)/Barbara L. Boxer (D-CA
2008: Jack Kennedy (D-MA)/Gary Locke (D-WA)
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