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« on: May 13, 2004, 04:11:16 PM »
« edited: May 13, 2004, 04:11:42 PM by Spin Police »

The Federal Election Commission has just declined to put limits on the so-called independent groups spending money on the election.

It's now official.. there are no rules...

Of the 6 members, only 2 (1 Dem and 1 Rep) were able to conclude the amazingly f**king obvious that groups like MoveOn and the GOP equivalents are nothing more than loopholes in McCain Feingold



FEC Passes on Limits for Independent Groups  
 
Thursday, May 13, 2004
 
WASHINGTON  — Federal regulators on Thursday refused to impose new restrictions on political groups that are spending millions on the presidential election, and Republicans predicted the decision would open the spending floodgates on their side.


Several Democratic groups have already begun spending large donations on advertising and get-out-the-vote activities. Republicans had asked to step in and stop the activities under the campaign law that broadly banned big checks known as "soft money" from federal elections.

But four of the six Federal Election Commission (search) members on Thursday refused to step in, tabling the issue for at least three months.

Democratic commissioner Scott Thomas (search), who joined Republican Michael Toner (search) as the only two to favor imposing new fund-raising and spending limits on the groups, predicted the decision would allow both Republicans and Democrats to engage in no-holds-barred spending this election year. He predicted pro-Republican groups, who have held their fire pending the FEC decision, would quickly surpass the Democrats.

"I think it is possible the Democrats could wind up, from this point on, worse off," Thomas said, adding that he thinks much of the new soft-money donations that used to go to parties before the law went into effect in 2002 will flow to new tax-exempt groups that don't have to disclose their fund raising and spending.

Democratic commissioner Ellen Weintraub (search), one of four commissioners who voted against new limits, said she supported a proposal by FEC lawyers to take another three months to study the issue.

"I said at the outset I didn't think we had given ourselves enough time to do the job right," Weintraub said.

The FEC lawyers this week urged commissioners to delay a decision until late summer, saying the issue was of such importance that more time was necessary to consider it.

Under debate is how the campaign finance law affects nonparty groups that are spending soft money — corporate, union or unlimited contributions — in the presidential and congressional elections. The law broadly bans soft money from federal elections, including the raising of the big contributions by national party committees.

The Republican Party, President Bush's re-election campaign and several campaign watchdog groups accuse Democrats of violating the ban by creating a network of pro-Democratic soft-money groups that are raising and spending millions of dollars to air anti-Bush ads and pay for get-out-the-vote activities. Critics call the groups a shadow party.

That spending helped flood the airwaves with negative commercials about Bush at a time when the Republican incumbent was airing millions of dollars of ads critical of presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry, who was working to rebuild his campaign's finances before going up with his own commercials after the primaries.

The anti-Bush groups argue that their spending is legal, in part because they stop short of calling for Bush's defeat or for Kerry's election. The FEC was considering whether the use of soft money to promote or criticize a federal candidate is enough to violate the soft-money ban, and Thursday decided against saying yes.

Several Republicans had predicted that if the FEC declined to impose new rules GOP donors would flock to pro-Bush groups that so far have operated on a more modest scale than the pro-Democratic groups.

Thomas and Toner had urged the commission to make most partisan tax-exempt groups follow donation limits and disclose contributions and spending to the FEC.
 
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2004, 04:16:04 PM »

Well, this is pretty obvious.  The Republcians never wanted the damn thing to begin with.  The Democrat a) never realized how badly it would cut into their finances and b) only signed unto the damn thing because they thought that it was a huge issue that would win them a lot of votes (since it didn't work for McCain, I don't know what the Hell they were thinking, but... [shrug])
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2004, 12:09:46 AM »

Believe me, I'm not overly thrilled with the amount of money that campaigns are raising/spending. There is always one problem though and that is by putting limits on raising money you open up the possibility that a wealthy candidate will 'buy" tyhe election. We have seen this with smaller races. Can we constitutionally stop someone from financing their own election? secondly I don't mind that the campaigns are making the huge amounts of money that they are because it shows how interested we still are about our elections.

The only thing that really bothers me is that with all of the money being pumped into these campaigns intsead of getting good dialogue and having to explains their decisions much fuller, not just opting for the soundbites, usually negative ones.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2004, 12:37:45 AM »

Good for the FEC.  It's too bad they can't kill McCain-Feingold all together.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2004, 10:49:39 AM »

I think it is fair to say that McCain-Feingold has NOT reduced the influence of money in politics. I don't think it is possible to REDUCE the amount of money in politics.

The key is to know where the influence is coming from so that a voter can make an informed decision about how the candidate is likely to vote.

The 527 loophole destroys the ability to see where the money is coming from.

I wonder if we would be better off without any dollar restrictions but require full disclosure of support. That way the candidate will retain control of the message and be responsible for it, but we would still know where the money is coming from.

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