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« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2008, 10:48:48 PM »

I did indeed, however, I'm sure you can understand the plight of a writer who changes his text as he writes Wink

Yes I do know that feeling, like my Senate elections in my Herbert Hoover timeline and the situation in Europe....
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« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2008, 10:32:20 PM »


The Presidency of Millard Tydings

At just over 43 years of age, President Tydings is the youngest man to ever be elected President, a full 3 years younger than President Grant, although he is still older than TR, who was 42 when President McKinley was shot.  In his Inaugural Address, he stresses the need for unity in the US, and he claims that he will work to unite the nation.  This is reflected in his Cabinet, which is a mix of all three major Parties.  He even retains Borah’s Secretary of Labor, a decision that is not popular with many members of the Senate.

Secretary of State:  Cordell Hull (D-TN)
Secretary of the Treasury: Dean Acheson (D-CT)
Secretary of War: Henry Stimson (P-MA)
Attorney General: George Norris (P-NE)
Postmaster General: James Farley (D-NY)
Secretary of the Navy: Frederick Hale (R-ME)
Secretary of the Interior: C. Ben Ross (D-ID)
Secretary of Agriculture: Charles W. Bryan (D-NE)
Secretary of Commerce: Harry Hopkins (D-IA)
Secretary of Labor: James J. Couzens (P-MI)

On September 9, 1933, Justice William Kenyon dies of a heart attack.  He is replaced by Charles Edward Clark of Yale Law School.

In his first speech to Congress, President Tydings mentions the situation in Austria and Hungary, stating that, despite a large number of anti-US protests, he says it is unlikely that he will be returning the countries to local governments until 1937 at the earliest.  In a separate speech, Vice President Roosevelt, who served as Governor of Austria from 1919-1929, states that he never had any indication during his tenure in Vienna that there was any sort of discontent with the US occupation.

On January 10, 1934, President Tydings makes the first visit by a US President to Europe since TR during the Versailles negotiations, as he visits both Austria and Hungary.  In a speech to the mostly Austrian born Legislature, with Austrian Governor Richard B. Russell (D-GA), at his side, Tydings says that great progress has been made in Austria, and that he hopes to return the country to self-government as soon as possible, hopefully by the end of 1935; he says similar things in Hungary.

In early 1934, the Congress begins consideration of an anti-lynching bill.  Despite threats from President Tydings that he would veto any such legislation, the Senate spends nearly two months debating the bill, until a Southern filibuster forced the Senate to turn to more important, and more passable, legislation.

The 1934 Congressional Elections

After suffering massive losses for 2 consecutive elections, the Progressives are able to make gains, and pass 100 seats in the House again.  The Democrats suffer fairly significant losses, while in the Senate, Huey Long’s Populist Party picks up a Senate seat in Minnesota.

House Results:
Democrats: 193 (-26)
Republicans: 117 (+4)
Progressives: 108 (+27)
Farmer-Labor: 17 (-5)

Senate Results:
Democrats: 45 (-9)
Progressives: 34 (+9)
Republicans: 14 (-1)
Populist: 3 (+1)

In February, 1935, a severe recession hits most of Europe, including Austria and Hungary.  Due to the status of Austria and Hungary, the recession finds its way to the US, the second recession to hit the US in 10 years.  With unemployment at nearly 7%, President Tydings goes on a tour of the country, trying to boost the morale of Americans; it is generally successful, and, in a survey done by Time Magazine, the President’s approval rating, which had been at 28% on March 4, 1935, jumps to 47% by May 4, 1935.

However, when Tydings visits Austria and Hungary, he is not as well received.  In Budapest, he is pelted with rotten tomatoes, although he never stops during his speech.  On August 2, 1935, Tydings visits Vienna, and is greeted by Governor Russell, who has felt no impact from the recession.  As he is speaking to an estimated 5,000 Austrian people, many of whom are unemployed, Tydings says “things are getting better.”  Within moments of his saying that, gunfire is heard, and President Tydings lies crumpled on the stage, blood protruding from his head.  He is rushed to the nearest hospital, where he is pronounced dead at 2:27 PM on August 2, 1935.  In Washington, President Roosevelt is informed, and sworn in by Chief Justice McReynolds.
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« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2008, 11:29:26 PM »

FDR! Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2008, 01:04:37 AM »

Interesting update indeed. I didn't expect Franklin D. Roosevelt to become President any time soon. Interesting times lay ahead of the United States and the World...
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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2008, 04:42:22 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2008, 06:29:53 PM by Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08 »


The First Term on Franklin Roosevelt

Within hours of being sworn in by Chief Justice McReynolds, President Roosevelt convenes a meeting of Tydings’ Cabinet, as well as prominent members of Congress.  His first action is to request that all members of the Cabinet stay in their office until the end of the term, which they quickly agree to.

Speaking to Congressional leaders, President Roosevelt informs them that he wishes to give a speech to a joint session of Congress as soon as possible, to reassure the American public that life will continue.  Speaker John Nance Garner (D-TX) agrees, and there is no dissent from Senate Majority Leader Joseph Robinson (D-AR).  It is decided that the President will address the Congress on August 4, when he will call a special session.

In his speech to Congress, Roosevelt announces that he will soon be introducing a large amount of legislation.  He explains that it was the intent of President Tydings to introduce the legislation when he returned from Europe, and that President Roosevelt wishes to continue what Tydings has started.

The next day, meeting with Congressional leaders, the scope of the new legislative package is revealed.  The first piece of legislation, called the Agricultural Adjustment Act, had been drafted by Tydings as a way of helping farmers during the recession, which was still hurting people in the Midwest.  The Act restricted production by paying farmers to reduce crop area. Its purpose was to reduce crop surplus so as to effectively raise the value of crops, thereby giving farmers relative stability again. The farmers were paid subsidies by the federal government for leaving some of their fields unused. The Act created a new agency, the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, to oversee the distribution of the subsidies.  Despite some misgivings by Congressional Democrats, the Act was passed by the Senate on September 2, by a vote of 70-26, with all 14 Republicans joining 12 Southern Democrats against the Act.  It passed the House on September 14 by a vote of 420-15, and was signed by the President the next day.

The second piece of legislation introduced by the President was the Tennessee Valley Authority Act, which created the TVA.  The Act helped to provide navigation, flood control, electricity generation, fertilizer manufacturing, and economic development in the Tennessee Valley, a region particularly impacted by the most recent recession.  This legislation, with the sponsorship of the powerful Southern Caucus, passed without controversy; introduced on August 7, it is signed by the President on August 20.

The third major piece of legislation to come out of this session was the Securities Act of 1935, which regulated the offer and sale of securities.  This legislation, like the TVA Act, was supported by the Southern Barons, and passed quietly a few days after being introduced.

The final, and most ambitious piece of legislation proposed by Roosevelt was the Social Security Act of 1935, the first ever federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance program.  The Act provided benefits to retirees and the unemployed, and a lump-sum benefit at death. Payments to current retirees were to be financed by a payroll tax on current workers' wages, half directly as a payroll tax and half paid by the employer.  This was the most controversial legislation, and Congress spent almost six months debating the Bill, before finally passing it by a vote of 60-36 on February 8, 1936, in the Senate, and by a vote of 248-187 in the House on March 17.

The 1936 Presidential Election

With President Roosevelt’s status as the incumbent of a deceased President, there seems to be little challenge to him.

The 1936 Progressive National Convention

As the Progressives race heats up, there are two major candidates: former President Borah, and Governor Alf Landon of Kansas.

1936 Progressive Primaries:

March 10th (Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Iowa)Sad
Wisconsin: Borah 53%, Landon 47%
Iowa: Landon 56%, Borah 44%
New Hampshire: Landon 53%, Borah 47%

March 17th (Alabama, Arkansas, New Jersey, and Oklahoma)Sad
Alabama: Landon 62%, Borah 38%
Arkansas: Landon 67%, Borah 33%
New Jersey: Borah 54%, Landon 46%
Oklahoma: Landon 57%, Borah 43%

March 24th (Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Florida, Ohio, and Virginia)Sad
Arizona: Borah 52%, Landon 48%
California: Borah 56%, Landon 44%
Connecticut: Landon 53%, Borah 47%
Delaware: Landon 60%, Borah 40%
Georgia: Landon 63%, Borah 37%
Florida: Landon 60%, Borah 40%
Ohio: Landon 84%, Borah 16%
Virginia: Landon 52%, Borah 48%

After winning only 4 of the first 15 primaries, Borah drops out, giving Landon the nomination.  At the convention, he chooses Senator Wallace H. White, Jr. of Maine to be his running mate.

The 1936 Democratic National Convention

There is no opposition to Roosevelt, and he selects Senator John H. Bankhead II of Alabama to be his Vice President.

The 1936 Republican National Convention

With no major Republicans interested in running, the nomination goes to Ohio Senator Warren G. Harding, who selects Senator William Barbour of New Jersey as his running mate.

The 1936 Presidential Election

Throughout the campaign, it is obvious that Roosevelt will win.  A poll taken a week before the election shows his support at 48%, Landon at 30%, and Harding at 22%.  On election day, he wins in one of the biggest landslides in history, and becomes the first candidate since 1908 to win 50% of the Popular Vote.



Franklin Roosevelt/William Bankhead: 52% PV, 476 EV
Alf Landon/Wallace White: 30% PV, 21 EV
Warren Harding/Wallace White: 18% PV, 34 EV

The 1936 Congressional Elections

With the Democratic Presidential landslide, it was certain that they would make huge gains in Congress, and they did.  They gained massive numbers of House seats, giving them the largest majority since 1913; they also made large gains in the Senate.

House Results:
Democrats: 226 (+33)
Progressives: 70 (-38)
Republicans: 110 (-7)
Farmer-Labor: 29 (+12)

Senate Results:
Democrats: 60 (+15)
Progressives: 26 (-8)
Republicans: 7 (-7)
Populist: 3 (-)
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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2008, 06:09:06 PM »

Where did Landon win?
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« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2008, 06:23:06 PM »

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

I assume that the Farmer-Labor House seats come from the Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, South Dakota area?
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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2008, 06:38:25 PM »


He won Kansas and Wisconsin; I forgot to change the map.

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.  Joseph Stlain is the cruel leader of the Communist Party in Russia, as he was in RL; there haven't been any major changes in Russia from RL yet, but there will be.

I assume that the Farmer-Labor House seats come from the Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, South Dakota area?

Correct; there are Farmer-Labor seats in Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska.  Wisconsin is an all Progressive delegation, in the House and Senate.
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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2008, 10:31:03 PM »

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?
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« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2008, 10:52:21 PM »

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

As to why he is living in Austria, he decided that it would be better to live in US territory than to live in UK occupied Germany.

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

Who exactly is that?
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« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2008, 12:50:27 AM »

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

As to why he is living in Austria, he decided that it would be better to live in US territory than to live in UK occupied Germany.

I thought you owned Mein Kampf? He hated Vienna.


Engelbert Dollfuß, clerico-fascist dictator of Austria.

And who's Chancellor of Germany?
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« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2008, 02:44:32 PM »

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

As to why he is living in Austria, he decided that it would be better to live in US territory than to live in UK occupied Germany.

I thought you owned Mein Kampf? He hated Vienna.

True, but in this TL, he is unable to do anything in the UK occupied Germany, so he decided to live in Austria and build a political base.


On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

He is working with Adolf Hitler, trying to become co-dictator of Austria.


The Chancellor of Germany is currently Hermann Göring, the first non-British ruler of Germany since Kaiser Wilhelm II abdicated in 1919.  From 1919-1929, the leader of Germany was Winston Churchill.
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« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2008, 03:00:29 PM »

Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

As to why he is living in Austria, he decided that it would be better to live in US territory than to live in UK occupied Germany.

I thought you owned Mein Kampf? He hated Vienna.

True, but in this TL, he is unable to do anything in the UK occupied Germany, so he decided to live in Austria and build a political base.

Eh, I'm not too sure on this one. An Austrian Hitler just seems very wrong.

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

He is working with Adolf Hitler, trying to become co-dictator of Austria.

And how close is he to this goal?


The Chancellor of Germany is currently Hermann Göring, the first non-British ruler of Germany since Kaiser Wilhelm II abdicated in 1919.  From 1919-1929, the leader of Germany was Winston Churchill.

From what party is Göring?
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« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2008, 03:21:34 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2008, 03:23:37 PM by Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08 »

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

He is working with Adolf Hitler, trying to become co-dictator of Austria.

And how close is he to this goal?

The only major remaining road block is the continued US occupation of Austria.


The Chancellor of Germany is currently Hermann Göring, the first non-British ruler of Germany since Kaiser Wilhelm II abdicated in 1919.  From 1919-1929, the leader of Germany was Winston Churchill.

From what party is Göring?
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The GNP, or German Nationalist Party.
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« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2008, 03:26:34 PM »


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be DNP?
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« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2008, 03:30:04 PM »


In German, it would.
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« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2008, 03:37:08 PM »


Well sure, but you don't really see many people talking about the 'NSGWP', 'SDP' or 'CPG' when referring to notable parties from the Weimar era, for example.

But never mind.  I'm splitting hairs.
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« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2008, 04:53:23 PM »


Well sure, but you don't really see many people talking about the 'NSGWP', 'SDP' or 'CPG' when referring to notable parties from the Weimar era, for example.

But never mind.  I'm splitting hairs.

Actually it neither the DVP or the GVP, but rather the DNVP.

Who is President of Germany?
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« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2008, 04:59:52 PM »


The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.
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« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2008, 06:35:07 PM »

I thought I'd read it from where I left off- I was busy lately. A few issues, minor, here and there; mostly on the Middle East and Eastern Europe.

And I need to ask, what's the situation in France?
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« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2008, 09:50:56 PM »

I thought I'd read it from where I left off- I was busy lately. A few issues, minor, here and there; mostly on the Middle East and Eastern Europe.

What issues are those; I might be able to explain them.

And I need to ask, what's the situation in France?

France benefited greatly from its occupation of Turkey, which lasted from 1919-1929.  First of all, they gained a major trade partner in Turkey, and a large influx of Turkish immigrants has given a large amount of new labor to France.  Albert Lebrun is still the President, and France remains much the same as it is in OTL, although it is a little better off, without a Depression, and a large number of Frenchmen live in Turkey.
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« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2008, 09:53:00 PM »

I'm not as interested in Lebrun, since the President was a figurehead (who nobody knew about), but more in the head of government and the 1936 elections in France (hint, the Front Populaire)
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« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2008, 09:56:14 PM »

I'm not as interested in Lebrun, since the President was a figurehead (who nobody knew about), but more in the head of government and the 1936 elections in France (hint, the Front Populaire)

The 1936 elections went much the same, although the Popular Front gained fewer seats (375 instead of 386); Léon Blum still became Prime Minister, and they still managed to pass the new labor laws through the Matignon Agreements.
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« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2008, 12:00:57 AM »


In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?
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« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2008, 05:21:30 AM »

Actually it neither the DVP or the GVP, but rather the DNVP.

What?
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