TR wins in 1912

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Immature little hack. If you knew anything about politics like I do.

Oh sorry Interesting timeline, I like third-parties-winning timelines

If that's the case, then this is the timeline for you!  I can promise that for most of this timeline, there will be at least three major political parties.

'Twon't be easy. Are you sure you're up for it?

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Immature little hack. If you knew anything about politics like I do.

Oh sorry Interesting timeline, I like third-parties-winning timelines

If that's the case, then this is the timeline for you!  I can promise that for most of this timeline, there will be at least three major political parties.

'Twon't be easy. Are you sure you're up for it?

I think I can handle it

So do I, but you've been warned.

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The Senate is governed by a coalition, correct?

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The Senate is governed by a coalition, correct?

Yes, to an extent.  The GOP votes with the Progressives, giving them a majority, similar to the way Lieberman and Sanders vote with the Democrats.

But Lieberman and Sanders are part of the Democratic Caucus. I assume that's not the case in this TL, meaning that the Republicans could switch control if they so desired.

BTW, that's an intriguing possibility, if I should say so myself.

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Update?

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Update?

Hopefully today; I'm glad I haven't alienated anybody with my delegate totals for the DNC.

We're too schocked that you actually did those to say anything.

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Update?

Hopefully today; I'm glad I haven't alienated anybody with my delegate totals for the DNC.

We're too schocked that you actually did those to say anything.

I thought it would be fun, and I plan on making that a permanent part of this TL.

Well, I think it's fun, too.

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I want to see what happens with Austria-Hungary. Don't mess up, but PM me if you need help.

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Not sure I like the occupation system; there should be outright annexations.

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Swanson attacked Versailles? Wasn't Johnson the prominent isolationist?

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Great update.

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Nitpick: the GOP picked up a seat, not "seats".

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FDR!

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Where did Landon win?

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Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

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Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

As to why he is living in Austria, he decided that it would be better to live in US territory than to live in UK occupied Germany.

I thought you owned Mein Kampf? He hated Vienna.

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

Who exactly is that?

Engelbert Dollfuß, clerico-fascist dictator of Austria.

And who's Chancellor of Germany?

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Interesting update. What's happening to Adolf and Joe in this TL, as I don't think I have read anything about them in this timeline thus far. If they have been mentioned, I excuse my ignorance.

Adolf Hitler is currently in Austria, building up his National Socialist Austrian Workers’ Party, which is currently gaining strength in Austria, mostly by building resentment against the US occupation, which Hitler charges is because of Jews corrupting the world governments.

NSÖAP? Why? He moved to Munich right before the war.

As to why he is living in Austria, he decided that it would be better to live in US territory than to live in UK occupied Germany.

I thought you owned Mein Kampf? He hated Vienna.

True, but in this TL, he is unable to do anything in the UK occupied Germany, so he decided to live in Austria and build a political base.

Eh, I'm not too sure on this one. An Austrian Hitler just seems very wrong.

On a related note, what's Dollfuß up to?

He is working with Adolf Hitler, trying to become co-dictator of Austria.

And how close is he to this goal?

And who's Chancellor of Germany?

The Chancellor of Germany is currently Hermann Göring, the first non-British ruler of Germany since Kaiser Wilhelm II abdicated in 1919.  From 1919-1929, the leader of Germany was Winston Churchill.

From what party is Göring?

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The GNP, or German Nationalist Party.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be DNP?

In German, it would.

Well sure, but you don't really see many people talking about the 'NSGWP', 'SDP' or 'CPG' when referring to notable parties from the Weimar era, for example.

But never mind.  I'm splitting hairs.

Actually it neither the DVP or the GVP, but rather the DNVP.

Who is President of Germany?

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Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

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I thought I'd read it from where I left off- I was busy lately. A few issues, minor, here and there; mostly on the Middle East and Eastern Europe.

What issues are those; I might be able to explain them.

You asked.

Here.

Why on earth are Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Transjordan (as it should be known here) and Palestine given independence? Do you assume that the French and British feel nice (they never were very nice on colonial matters) and were in a pro-Arab independence mood that day? The French and British were carving up the Levant and Middle East long before 1918, while Lawrence was hanging out with the lunatic Hashemites, in fact. IMO, you made a big historical plausibility mistake by leaving out the whole mandates thing in the Middle East.

I'm also not sure about Turkey. The French (or any power for that matter; and you also forgot the Greeks, who had plans in Turkey) preferred to have a joke Ottoman 'Empire' under a puppet ruler instead of a republic. Ataturk founded the Republic in 1922, and he was anti-French/Greek/British.

You might want to read this from Wikipedia, quite good.

I did indeed read the wikipedia article; the major reason that these countries were not occupied is that, due to the Allies were already occupying the large European countries, they decided that it would be too difficult to retain control of all of these extra territories, so they gave them independence; however, they have established embassies in the Middle East, and intervene regularly in affairs there.

Not likely in the Age of Empires.

Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

Not really; the President is more of a figurehead.

Really? In the Weimar Republic, the President was, with a few minor adjustments, an Ersatzkaiser. I assume that for Papen to be elected, his cronies in the Defense Ministry would have to have lots of power.

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Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

Not really; the President is more of a figurehead.

Really? In the Weimar Republic, the President was, with a few minor adjustments, an Ersatzkaiser.

Remember, though, that this is not the Weimar Republic.  Germany, in this TL, is much more a copy of the British system, where the Chancellor has most of the power, and the President is more ceremonial.

Eh. Well, how well do the Communists do?

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Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

Not really; the President is more of a figurehead.

Really? In the Weimar Republic, the President was, with a few minor adjustments, an Ersatzkaiser.

Remember, though, that this is not the Weimar Republic.  Germany, in this TL, is much more a copy of the British system, where the Chancellor has most of the power, and the President is more ceremonial.

Eh. Well, how well do the Communists do?

Not that well; at the moment, the German Communist Party is in its infancy; the British were able to keep the Party out of Germany during the Occupation.

Then what about its IRL predecessor, the Independent Social Dmeocrats?

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Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

Not really; the President is more of a figurehead.

Really? In the Weimar Republic, the President was, with a few minor adjustments, an Ersatzkaiser.

Remember, though, that this is not the Weimar Republic.  Germany, in this TL, is much more a copy of the British system, where the Chancellor has most of the power, and the President is more ceremonial.

Eh. Well, how well do the Communists do?

Not that well; at the moment, the German Communist Party is in its infancy; the British were able to keep the Party out of Germany during the Occupation.

Then what about its IRL predecessor, the Independent Social Dmeocrats?

In the British controlled government, Parties remotely associated with Communism, and with far left politics, did very poorly.

Why? Germany was a hotbed for left-wing activism.

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Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

Not really; the President is more of a figurehead.

Really? In the Weimar Republic, the President was, with a few minor adjustments, an Ersatzkaiser.

Remember, though, that this is not the Weimar Republic.  Germany, in this TL, is much more a copy of the British system, where the Chancellor has most of the power, and the President is more ceremonial.

Eh. Well, how well do the Communists do?

Not that well; at the moment, the German Communist Party is in its infancy; the British were able to keep the Party out of Germany during the Occupation.

Then what about its IRL predecessor, the Independent Social Dmeocrats?

In the British controlled government, Parties remotely associated with Communism, and with far left politics, did very poorly.

Why? Germany was a hotbed for left-wing activism.

Although the causes are not known for sure, it rumored that the British rigged elections, in order to assure that no radical parties gain power in post-occupation Germany.

Then give me a general composition of the Reichstag, by percent.

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Who is President of Germany?

The President of Germany is Franz von Papen.

In that case, I assume it's esentially become a military state?

Not really; the President is more of a figurehead.

Really? In the Weimar Republic, the President was, with a few minor adjustments, an Ersatzkaiser.

Remember, though, that this is not the Weimar Republic.  Germany, in this TL, is much more a copy of the British system, where the Chancellor has most of the power, and the President is more ceremonial.

Eh. Well, how well do the Communists do?

Not that well; at the moment, the German Communist Party is in its infancy; the British were able to keep the Party out of Germany during the Occupation.

Then what about its IRL predecessor, the Independent Social Dmeocrats?

In the British controlled government, Parties remotely associated with Communism, and with far left politics, did very poorly.

Why? Germany was a hotbed for left-wing activism.

Although the causes are not known for sure, it rumored that the British rigged elections, in order to assure that no radical parties gain power in post-occupation Germany.

Then give me a general composition of the Reichstag, by percent.

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Each of the 19 Constituent States has three members of the Reichstag, resulting in 57 members, with 29 needed for a majority:
Partisan Divide in 1937 (members of the coalition in bold)
Arbeitskräfte (Labor): 17 seats
Konservative (Conservative): 14 seats
Liberale (Liberal): 10 seats
Zentrisch (Centrist): 10 seats
Monarchisch (Monarchist): 6 seats

Making up parties now, are you?

Seriously, go to Wikipedia. Look up Prussia. Then look up Schaumburg-Lippe.