Robocall attacks Kitten Killer Killary Klinton

[Meeker]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

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Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

[Verily]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

[Meeker]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

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Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

[Verily]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

I don't buy it. Maybe had they been "tears of joy", but then the media wouldn't have latched onto it. And Clinton has never been "ripped apart" by the news media, except maybe for about six months in 1998 and in 1993.

[Meeker]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

I don't buy it. Maybe had they been "tears of joy", but then the media wouldn't have latched onto it. And Clinton has never been "ripped apart" by the news media, except maybe for about six months in 1998 and in 1993.

So how did 50% of the nation grow to hate her? There's been a consistent anti-Clinton message pushed out at America for 15 years. Many have a legitimate reason for disliking her (like most on this board), but the vast majority of her detractors just dislike her because they've been told that a lot of people hate her and they should too.

I happen to believe she was being genuine and has the capacity to be a human being. Agree to disagree.

[Verily]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

I don't buy it. Maybe had they been "tears of joy", but then the media wouldn't have latched onto it. And Clinton has never been "ripped apart" by the news media, except maybe for about six months in 1998 and in 1993.

So how did 50% of the nation grow to hate her? There's been a consistent anti-Clinton message pushed out at America for 15 years. Many have a legitimate reason for disliking her (like most on this board), but the vast majority of her detractors just dislike her because they've been told that a lot of people hate her and they should too.

This is not "the media", but rather the right-wing talk radio, etc., which spends just as much time going after Gore, Obama, Kerry, Dean, and whomever else. The 50% of the country that hates Clinton hates her mostly for ideological reasons; they perceive her as very liberal. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant, and I have never actually seen a serious, mainstream news source (well, except FOX) which suggested that Clinton was an ultra-liberal.

[J. J.]

I just want to point out that it's not the Republicans doing this.  1988 is a tea party compared to 2008.

Robert Morrow, who wrote and paid for this ad, is a conservative Republican.

Okay, but the Democratic nomination contest is so negative, I couldn't tell.

[exopolitician]

I just want to point out that it's not the Republicans doing this.  1988 is a tea party compared to 2008.

Robert Morrow, who wrote and paid for this ad, is a conservative Republican.

Okay, but the Democratic nomination contest is so negative, I couldn't tell.

And the Republican Contest has been full of perfect little angels?

[Meeker]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

I don't buy it. Maybe had they been "tears of joy", but then the media wouldn't have latched onto it. And Clinton has never been "ripped apart" by the news media, except maybe for about six months in 1998 and in 1993.

So how did 50% of the nation grow to hate her? There's been a consistent anti-Clinton message pushed out at America for 15 years. Many have a legitimate reason for disliking her (like most on this board), but the vast majority of her detractors just dislike her because they've been told that a lot of people hate her and they should too.

This is not "the media", but rather the right-wing talk radio, etc., which spends just as much time going after Gore, Obama, Kerry, Dean, and whomever else. The 50% of the country that hates Clinton hates her mostly for ideological reasons; they perceive her as very liberal. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant, and I have never actually seen a serious, mainstream news source (well, except FOX) which suggested that Clinton was an ultra-liberal.

But when CNN and other outlets cover what's being said by those right-wing talk radio outfits they're participating in getting the message out as well. And even if they do hate her because she's uber-liberal or something else, the bottom line is that a majority of her detractors didn't really come to that conclusion on their own but rather developed it because they've been hearing people tell them that for 15 years.

We've gotten completely off the original subject though.

[Beet]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

I don't buy it. Maybe had they been "tears of joy", but then the media wouldn't have latched onto it. And Clinton has never been "ripped apart" by the news media, except maybe for about six months in 1998 and in 1993.

So how did 50% of the nation grow to hate her? There's been a consistent anti-Clinton message pushed out at America for 15 years. Many have a legitimate reason for disliking her (like most on this board), but the vast majority of her detractors just dislike her because they've been told that a lot of people hate her and they should too.

This is not "the media", but rather the right-wing talk radio, etc., which spends just as much time going after Gore, Obama, Kerry, Dean, and whomever else. The 50% of the country that hates Clinton hates her mostly for ideological reasons; they perceive her as very liberal. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant, and I have never actually seen a serious, mainstream news source (well, except FOX) which suggested that Clinton was an ultra-liberal.

That's a fudge and you know it; first of all they don't spend 'just as much time' going after Gore, Obama, Kerry, Dean, etc. all other things equal. They'll spend the most time on the nominee, but all things equal they spend far more time going after her. Secondly they don't represent nearly 50%, more like a subset of conservative Republicans (and a subset of politically active Democrats who hate her for even dumber reasons).

In total coverage, Clinton's has been far more negative than Obama, which may explain why Obama did not need to go on the explicit attack until recently (though he's effectively been on the attack since the middle of last year):
http://www.journalism.org/node/8187

[Verily]

Verily- most jokes are supposed to contain an element of truth, and in your case the 'element of truth' was supposed to be the Clintons cynicism and the example used was implied to be that Hillary's tears in NH were calculated. Now I don't know if they are or aren't but that's an assumption. But I'll take you at your word that you don't approve the message and let's leave it at that.

Oh, don't take me that way. I do think the New Hampshire tears were calculated. The question she was asked was (and I'm paraphrasing), "How do you always look so good?" If anyone broke down in tears after being asked that question, you'd call them either a faker or mentally unstable, and much as I dislike Clinton, I don't think she's mentally unstable.

Actually it was "How do you do it?" It had nothing to do with her appearance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

Yes, "How do you do it?" - in context, meaning, "How do you keep your appearance up on the campaign trail?"

No, she was asking about how she remains emotionally stable during the campaign

Which, obviously, has everything to do with her hair and face. I just wish we had the full quote of the question to work with, not the clipped version with a summary of the comments about Clinton's wonderful appearance.

?

Emotional stability = Hair and face?

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Yes... but that was a minor part of the overall question where she asked who did her hair. The main question was about her emotional stability.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/clinton.emotional/

It's a still a flattering question about how wonderful she is. Yeah, I would break down crying is someone told me how wonderful I am.

Well, you've also never been through a grueling year long Presidential campaign and spent the previous 15 years or so being ripped apart in the national media. I'd imagine she has quite a different worldview of things especially when it comes to someone praising you.

I don't buy it. Maybe had they been "tears of joy", but then the media wouldn't have latched onto it. And Clinton has never been "ripped apart" by the news media, except maybe for about six months in 1998 and in 1993.

So how did 50% of the nation grow to hate her? There's been a consistent anti-Clinton message pushed out at America for 15 years. Many have a legitimate reason for disliking her (like most on this board), but the vast majority of her detractors just dislike her because they've been told that a lot of people hate her and they should too.

This is not "the media", but rather the right-wing talk radio, etc., which spends just as much time going after Gore, Obama, Kerry, Dean, and whomever else. The 50% of the country that hates Clinton hates her mostly for ideological reasons; they perceive her as very liberal. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant, and I have never actually seen a serious, mainstream news source (well, except FOX) which suggested that Clinton was an ultra-liberal.

That's a fudge and you know it; first of all they don't spend 'just as much time' going after Gore, Obama, Kerry, Dean, etc. all other things equal. They'll spend the most time on the nominee, but all things equal they spend far more time going after her.

You know that is blatantly untrue. Certainly not while Bill Clinton was President (because he was their chief target), nor during the 2000 campaign (Gore), nor the 2004 campaign (Dean, then Kerry). That covers 1992-2000 and 2003-2004 all by itself. In 2001 and 2002, their fire was on Democrats in the Senate: Clinton incidentally, but mostly those up for reelection in 2002 such as Cleland. Even after the 2004 election, they focused on the Democrats as a party, and on Kerry specifically, for being traitors until at least the dawning of 2006, at which point the focus of hate became Pelosi and, once more, Dean.

Hillary Clinton is not some great victim, even of the right-wing parts of the media; she's been shunted to the side in favor of juicier targets at every turn until this past year.

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True; I did not say that they did. They do, however, explain that vehemence of hatred against Clinton, and against Pelosi, and Dean, and Kerry, and Gore, all of whom have national approval ratings the same or worse than Clinton's. You will find that they, too, are perceived nationally as being on the liberal fringe, again, rightly or wrongly.

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And this in a study that finds 63% of news coverage was about tactics. Well, when you're the dirty tactics candidate, you get bad press if all the media covers are tactics.

[MarkWarner08]

Most Republicans: HELLary Clinton sux bcuz her husb is BILLL!!!! Bill luvs Foster/Berger/Chung!!!

Sane Democrats: Hillary sucks because she voted for the war, injected racial politics into the 2008 campaign, failed on health care, and supports incremental policies which won't fix our problems.

Hillary fans: HILLARY gr8 bcuz her husb IS bILL. USA luvs Bill. 90's Economy awsom bcz Bill rcks!!

[Gustaf]

Beet, I mostly agree with you and I consider it pretty brave of you to stand up to the Obamaniacs. Keep it up.

[minionofmidas]

This is utterly disgusting.

[Gustaf]

This is utterly disgusting.

Knowing you, I bet you're referring to some obscure part of the thread that no one could guess. Or do you actually mean the Roboccall?

[Wakie]

Most Republicans: HELLary Clinton sux bcuz her husb is BILLL!!!! Bill luvs Foster/Berger/Chung!!!

Sane Democrats: Hillary sucks because she voted for the war, injected racial politics into the 2008 campaign, failed on health care, and supports incremental policies which won't fix our problems.

Hillary fans: HILLARY gr8 bcuz her husb IS bILL. USA luvs Bill. 90's Economy awsom bcz Bill rcks!!

I like how no one but the people you agree with have typing skills.

[Eraserhead]

Listen to the actual call. It's by far one of the strangest and most psychedelic things to ever come out of the political arena.

[Bacon King]

Would anyone actually be stupid enough to believe this?

[Wakie]

Would anyone actually be stupid enough to believe this?

Would anyone be stupid enough to believe that Obama is a radical Muslim version of "The Manchurian Candidate"?

Would anyone be stupid enough to believe that McCain "betrayed his fellow POW's"?

Would anyone be stupid enough to believe that the Clintons "had long-time friend Vince Foster murdered"?