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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: November 14, 2004, 11:47:29 AM »

The population boom in the North East of The Atlas has put a massive strain on the current 5 district Senate electoral system.
This is notable in the current re-districting farce, where almost every map is an ugly gerrymander.

I propose creating a sixth district to end this problem and stop the rot of gerrymandering from setting in.

I think this would need a Constitutional ammendment, but as five districts is arbitary and unsustainable in the light of the population boom, I think it would be in the interests of both the Senate and the Nation for this to pass.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2004, 12:16:05 PM »

Interesting proposal. Might actually be a good idea...
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2004, 12:48:33 PM »

I agree with Al (first time for everything?)
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2004, 12:57:22 PM »

I honestly don't see how this will solve the New York bottleneck.  In addition, I don't feel we have enough active members to justify the creation of any new governmental positions.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2004, 01:03:10 PM »

Could we feasably split up New York into easily definable areas like "NYC/Long Island" and "The rest of the state"?
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2004, 01:06:59 PM »

I think we have enough members at the moment, but I don't think that going to six districts will make districting easier than or better than it is with five districts.  Since you contend that it would Al, perhaps you would care to propose a six-distict map as an demonstration of what you think the advantages are?
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2004, 01:24:36 PM »

The government is to large as it is.  When we have all our government officials active, then we can talk about adding more.  Some people who run for positions like Governor or Senate almost never post.  The only time I've seen NYGOP or TrueDemocrat is when there is an election, and Migrendel just suddenly left.

The only way I would consider adding new positions is in the Supreme Court so we won't have a situation like before when KEmperor was forced to make all the calls when we had the vacancies.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2004, 01:44:44 PM »

Or we can designate Oklahoma "Indian New Yorker Territory" and have them move.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2004, 01:51:48 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2004, 01:56:27 PM »

Perhaps a solution with some longevity built into it would be to revise the margin of error to a percentage of national population instead of a formual producing a small constant that will continually be more restrictive: something along the lines of 4-5%?
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2004, 02:01:08 PM »

Here is a good one.. The numbers at the bottom are NOT right...

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2004, 02:42:25 PM »

Here is a good one.. The numbers at the bottom are NOT right...


Do you guys like my map?
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2004, 02:46:52 PM »

While interesting, none of these six district plans looks to be substantially better than the five district plans.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2004, 02:50:38 PM »

If we have six districts it does not solve the Northeast bottleneck problem. This could only be solved if we had about 8 districts. This would be too many IMO because there wouldn't be enough active people to keep up the demand.

I don't see splitting NY or PA as viable because I suspect many people would just remain in the bit that everybody was automatically assigned too, and the arguments over what bits of the new states backs on to the other states will take forever to settle.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2004, 03:37:33 PM »

Could we feasably split up New York into easily definable areas like "NYC/Long Island" and "The rest of the state"?

YES, just split NY in 2! NYC/LI and upstate.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2004, 03:39:44 PM »

We can barely get 10 senators to show up.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2004, 04:00:24 PM »


I agree.  Expanding the Senate to 12 would create more problems than it would solve.
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2004, 04:06:27 PM »

If we have six districts it does not solve the Northeast bottleneck problem. This could only be solved if we had about 8 districts. This would be too many IMO because there wouldn't be enough active people to keep up the demand.

We could have 8 districts, but instead of 2 Senators per district, it would be just 1.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2004, 04:34:58 PM »

If we have six districts it does not solve the Northeast bottleneck problem. This could only be solved if we had about 8 districts. This would be too many IMO because there wouldn't be enough active people to keep up the demand.

We could have 8 districts, but instead of 2 Senators per district, it would be just 1.
That would be good
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2004, 04:40:44 PM »

With 4 districts up for re-election during Presidential  and 4 during midterms.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2004, 05:11:19 PM »

My suggestion would be that we establish some sort of representation system. Per 30 active citizens is one Senator. With a minimum of 5. Arbitrarily (sp?) adjusting the numbers seems illogical.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2004, 05:33:28 PM »

Any attempts to change the number of senators will be opposed by me.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2004, 05:36:36 PM »

Here's an idea: essentially do what County Councils do. Have 8 1-Senator districts plus 2 'at-large' seats, resulting in a 10-seat Senate.
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2004, 05:48:28 PM »

My suggestion would be that we establish some sort of representation system. Per 30 active citizens is one Senator. With a minimum of 5. Arbitrarily (sp?) adjusting the numbers seems illogical.

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Good idea Siege.
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