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« Reply #150 on: May 15, 2004, 09:00:09 PM »

Hatta/McKell 1952 Cool
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« Reply #151 on: May 15, 2004, 09:10:41 PM »


Was the Capitol ever rebuilt?  How do they fit 200 Senators & 1000 Representatives on the House & Senate floor? Smiley
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« Reply #152 on: May 15, 2004, 10:05:10 PM »

The countries that aren't part of the US and are afraid of being annexed are going to start banding together, likely under the protection of the USSR.

Companies are going to start moving into the poor districts for the cheap labor, but due to the huge amount of districts, this will be spread thin and little progress will be made.  Perhaps, companies will even form monopolies over the various labor markets and dominate the districts.  The more benevolent CEOs might improve the areas vastly and perhaps a "Rockefeller" state might pop up in Mozambique or something.

The income gap between the industrialized states and the non-industrialized ones just has to casue some riots and attempted rebellions.
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« Reply #153 on: May 16, 2004, 06:31:42 AM »
« Edited: May 16, 2004, 09:46:07 AM by MasterJedi »

Well I suspect some of those districts will becoming states first before we get any ohter states. My guess is the 3 districts in Siberia and Manchuria and Japan will become states soon if the Cold War is still in this TL.

So no bomb dropped on Japan here? hehe, let's test it on Moscow to gain a lot more land in Eastern Russia and end the Cold War!

EDIT: After some thinking Greenland should be a US district now along with that Island chain that Norway controls north of itself. Along those lines the Azores and Canary Islands would also be the US's.

Edit II: After thinking some more. Is Antarctica going to be a thing in this TL? And what about the Middle East and Israel, are they going to be causing trouble too?
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« Reply #154 on: May 16, 2004, 06:44:39 AM »

I think that the southern districts of Australia should become states.
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« Reply #155 on: May 16, 2004, 09:59:19 AM »
« Edited: May 16, 2004, 11:41:32 AM by Senator Harry, PPT-Senate »

Some notes:
In this TL, Greenland was bought by Iceland in the early 1900's.  Iceland acheived its indepedence and bought Greenland and Svalbard.
Altantica owns the Azores and wants the Cape Verde Islands.
The Manhattan Project produced an atomic bomb in 1945, but it was decided to not use it since only Brazil and Germany were left to beat and it wasn't necessary.  No other countries are aware of the US's atomic bomb.
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« Reply #156 on: May 16, 2004, 10:03:20 AM »

Harry you make the best timelines I have ever seen.
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« Reply #157 on: May 16, 2004, 10:54:31 AM »

THE WORLD IN 1950
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« Reply #158 on: May 16, 2004, 10:59:30 AM »

Way COOL keep it up harry!
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« Reply #159 on: May 16, 2004, 11:04:43 AM »

Nice map, it really helps sort out who controls what and helps show how much the US actually controls!
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« Reply #160 on: May 16, 2004, 11:16:20 AM »

How could Iceland buy Greenland in the 1900s?  Iceland belonged to Denmark until 1939 when they gave it to the US.
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« Reply #161 on: May 16, 2004, 09:21:22 PM »

Harry where can I get those type of maps with all the countries outlined? I want to make a world sized electoral map for a thread I'm working on.
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« Reply #162 on: May 16, 2004, 09:22:47 PM »

i found the world map at www.citypopulation.de
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« Reply #163 on: May 19, 2004, 09:08:45 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2004, 09:09:16 PM by Senator Harry, PPT-Senate »

THE TIMELINE, CONTINUED:

1950—Hatta continues to call for statehood and is little heard.  Harry Belvin, chief of the Oklahoma Choctaw, and Indian Territory’s representative calls for statehood for Indian Territory.
Turkey and Greece nearly fall to Communism like much of the rest of Eastern Europe, but Truman sends much aid to prevent this, much as in OTL.
The people of Austria-Hungary begin protesting under King Franz Ferdinand’s absoluteism.  He’s not a bad ruler at all, but the people want democracy.  Seeing this, he makes a HUGE PR move and allows democracy to come.  He’ll keep his title, but he gives up most of his power.

1951—With the Cold War now officially, going, Congress hurridiedly decides to admit the Siberian states.  The Statehood Coalition is happy, but encourages more statehood.  The Districts are mostly much worse off, and statehood could improve them.  Congress passes the Internal Movement Act, which gives tax incentives to rich people who move to a poor area.

1952—A communist revolt occurs in the USAR.  Truman does everything he can to stop it, but fails.  Truman drops out of the presidential race after performing poorly in the New Hampshire primary.
Adlai Stevenson seeks the Progressive nomination, but instead it goes to WWII General Dwight D. Eisenhower, who is more moderate than the usual progressive.  Eisenhower picks Stevenson as his running mate.
The CCF shockingly dumps Thomas and instead chooses Vincent Auriol of France, along with Tommy Douglas.  Many liberals turn to Auriol, dissatisfied with Eisenhower.
The Conservatives, in winless in 20 years, decide to look at Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, but when he takes the Progressive nomination, they reluctantly choose Gen. Douglas MacArthur
The Statehood Coalition picks Hatta and McKell again, and this time they have more support.  A major issue is the Occupied Territory, which must by 1954 become districts or independent.  Eisenhower supports a referendum; Auriol statehood, and MacArthur wants to amend the constitution to occupy them longer.
To win, a candidate needs 593 electoral votes, which is exactly how many Eisenhower gets.  The Conservatives are distraught at yet another loss.


1953—Eisenhower announces a referendum for the occupied territories of Quebec, Germany, Brazil, and Greater Japan.  The options are districthood and independence.  The date of the referendum will be July 31.  Mohammad Hatta tours Japan, Korea, and Manchuria begging for them to choose districthood and reminding them how they’ve improved.  Germany, seeing how their lives and the lives of their neighbors have improved, overwhelming chooses to become a district.  Brazil, in a close 52-48 vote, also chooses districthood.  Seeing the threat of Communism very nearby, Japan, Korea, and Manchuria become districts as well.  The USSR and China are dismayed.  Quebec decides to become a district by a large margin.

1954—Montenegro falls to Communism.  Soon enough, so does Albania.  Austria-Hungary and Greece attempt to stop it, but to no avail.  The USSR moves South and takes over Turkistan.  The districts and states on the mainland cower in fear at such a thought.  In response, Eisenhower sends 500,000 US soldiers to Siberia, Kamchatka, Pendleton, Korea, and Manchuria.  The thought that WWIII may be just around the corner frightens many Americans.  Eisenhower’s approval rates plummets.
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« Reply #164 on: May 19, 2004, 09:09:01 PM »

1955—The US sends an envoy to Mongolia offering annexation, but he turns up dead.  The next day, Mongolia decides to join the Soviet Union.  Eisenhower raises the troop count in East Asia to 800,000, lowering his approval rating even more {except in East Asia, where it rises Smiley }
McArthur is placed in command in East Asia.  He asks the president for permission to use force whenever he feels it is necessary without the president’s permission.  He also asks the president for three small atomic bombs {which are top secret—no one else has them}.  President Eisenhower will not consent to this.  When McArthur criticizes Eisenhower to the press, Eisenhower has no choice but to fire him.  At the end of the year, Communism prevails in Thailand.

1956—Having not won an election in 24, the Conservatives are ready to win—now.  Their first hope is to nominate Winston Churchill, governor of Anglia, and social leader during WWII, but his old age and poor health prevent that.  They finally settle on Alexander Douglas-Home of Scotland, and Richard Nixon of CA as his running mate.  Vincent Auriol and Norman Thomas both campaign for the CCF nomination, but surprisingly, Adlai Stevenson shows up at the CCF convention and asks them to choose Eisenhower and himself on a coalition ticket.  Even more surprisingly, the CCF decides to endorse Eisenhower/Stevenson for a second term.  Despite a low approval rating, this endorsement gives Eisenhower a second chance at reelection.  Mohammad Hatta announces he won’t run for president in June, as does McKell, leaving the Statehood Coalition without a candidate.  Then Eisenhower makes a commitment to bring in more states, and the S.C. endorses him and Stevenson.  Despite his tri-party fusion ticket, Douglas-Home seems very likely to defeat Eisenhower.  The Conservatives are banking everything on this election.  If they lose, the different factions will likely break apart.  This 2-man election requires 596 votes to win.  An anamoly of the polls seems to show close in most states, but Douglas-Home way ahead in Australia, and Eisenhower way ahead in non-English Europe.

Despite Conservative high hopes, Eisenhower is able to win, with Europe being the deciding factor.

1957—The Conservative Party breaks down:  Conservatives from the “American Heartland,” or English-speaking continental North America, form the American Party.  Strom Thurmond is the party’s chief.  Their aim is “to secure independence for the districts and concentrate on improvements for the Real America.”  European conservatives combine with more moderate American conservatives to form the Republican Party, a throwback to the nineteenth century party.
Eisenhower begins his second term.  The Communist Party begins taking strides in India.  Eisenhower sends aid to pro-Democratic parties.
Turkey falls to Communism.  Eisenhower cannot prevent it.
At this point, the following countries are communist:  USSR, USAR, Turkey, China, Thailand.

1958—To the free world’s dismay, Iceland falls to Communism.  Later this year, the USSR invades and takes over Afghanistan.  Troops in East Asian America go on red alert.  Eisenhower increases the number to 1,000,000 troops in Siberia/Manchuria and 500,000 in Europe.  Another heartbreaking blow comes in July:  Arabia and Persia have gone Communist.  Eisenhower’s approval rating drops into the 30’s.  Reactionaries and radicals alike call for his resignation, but many still support him.  Then, in a surprising forward gesture, Eisenhower personally travels to meet with Muhammad Najib al-Rubai, president of the United Arab Republic, and the two of them agree that the UAR will never go Communist.  Then, in an even more daring move, he meets with Mohammad Ayub Khan, president of Pakistan, and he also signs a permanent alliance with the US, and agrees to always have a Pakistani democracy.  The “victories” of the UAR and Pakistan restore many people’s faith in Eisenhower.

1959—The Free Peoples of the World meet in February in Pierce for the Thunder Bay Conference.  The subject:  containment of Communism.  In the fateful conference, the United States, Argentina, Atlantica, Austria-Hungary, Pakistan, the United Arab Republic, Italy, San Marino, Sri Lanka, the Indian Ocean Confederation, Andorra, Liechtenstein, and Greece sign the Pact of Freedom.
The conference is planning to seat delegates from India when word is received that India has fallen to Communism.  The nations of the Pact of Freedom are stunned.
In October, USARian rebels land in the Bay of Swords on the Pacific coast.  They intend to overthrow the government, but fail miserably.  They are later found to have been armed by the Pact of Freedom.  The “Bay of Swords” Incident haunts Eisenhower and the other free countries.  In December, the armies of the USSR and India look into Pakistan.  Eisenhower clearly tells the communists than any excursion into Pakistan will start WWIII.  At 4 AM, December 31, 1959, Communist troops move into Pakistan.  As soon as Eisenhower hears, he asks Congress to declare war on the USSR and India.  Congress obliges with little opposition.  Eisenhower fears for the lives of American citizens, thrown into yet another world war, but remembers that America has a weapon that other nations do not:  the atomic bomb.
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« Reply #165 on: May 20, 2004, 07:18:05 AM »

And so WWIII starts! Time for some atomic explosions. I'm surprised the rest of Austrailia isn't a state yet. I wonder how much death this new war will cause and it only starts 10 years from WWII!  Smiley

FYI in the last election map you didn't have the 6 electoral votes for one of the Siberian states.

Great update!
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« Reply #166 on: May 21, 2004, 07:54:51 PM »

Does anyone else have any comments? Wink
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« Reply #167 on: May 21, 2004, 08:03:12 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2004, 08:04:18 PM by Lunar »

Great as always.

Waiting for Eastern Oklahoma to become a state, heh.
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« Reply #168 on: May 21, 2004, 08:16:46 PM »

This gets the Academy award for Best Timeline.
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« Reply #169 on: May 21, 2004, 08:30:01 PM »

From now on, I'll be posting by decade.

A preview for the sixties
Turblent times, atomic bombs, and several assassinations.
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« Reply #170 on: May 22, 2004, 04:39:20 AM »

Opebo will be heart-broken by Thailand falling to Communism!!!!!!!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And I was by Iceland doing that... Sad

Great work!
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« Reply #171 on: May 22, 2004, 09:52:56 PM »
« Edited: May 22, 2004, 09:53:35 PM by Senator Harry, PPT-Senate »

THE SIXTIES

1960—US soldiers pour into Eastern USSR on January 1.  The army of Pakistan withdraws to a defensive position around Islamabad, facing the combined onslaught of India and the USSR.  Turkey, Persia, and Arabia march on the United Arab Republic.  Soviet troops are moved into Montenegro and Albania to help them defend themselves.  The USAR and Thailand engage in skirmishes with US troops along their borders.  Chinese and American troops fight in first major engagement of the war, the Battle of Beijing.  Under semiheavy casualties, American forces withdraw.  The Pact of Freedom declares war on all of the world’s Communist countries.
By February, Thailand has been subjugated and placed under occupation, with a referendum scheduled for 1968.  In a somewhat surprising move, the Trucial States declare war on Arabia and join the Pact of Freedom.  The Soviet and Indian troops engage Pakistani troops at Islamabad.  The battle rages on with no clear favorite.  Italian and Greek troops enter Montenegro and set up a new democratic government which proclaims freedom for all.  Austro-Hungarian troops liberate Tirana, and the rest of Albania.  Albania becomes a province of the A-H Republic.  Many American troops in Europe {Which includes German troops} are sent to the UAR, which is loosing badly.
By August, Greek, American, Italian, and A-Hian troops are bogged down in Eastern Europe, American troops have withdrawn from the UAR following its unfortunate fall, and the war in the East is going nowhere.
West Pakistan falls on September 3.  East Pakistan now proclaims itself Bangladesh.
Amongst all of this, a presidential election is occurring.  The American party has nominated Harry Byrd for president, with founder and former presidential candidate Strom Thurmond for VP.
The new Republican Party decides to nominate CA representative Richard Nixon for president, and in a somewhat suprising move, they nominate Gustavo Díaz Ordaz, governor of the state of Mexico, for VP.
The Progressive Party decides to nominate President Eisenhower again, but VP Stevenson declines to be on the ticket again.  Instead, Eisenhower chooses Lyndon Johnson of TX to be his running mate.
The CCF is dead, basically.  They’ve lost a lot, and their pacifist platform is about shot.  The Statehood Coalition reluctantly endorses Eisenhower again.
A lot of new things happen this time.  Several Spanish states don’t vote Progressive for the first time EVER.  When the race ends up with no majority, it goes to the House, who choose Richard Nixon as the 38th president of the United States.


1961—Richard Nixon is inaugurated.  He is eager to end the war quickly, and cost as few American lives as possible.  He sends troops to southern Pakistan to relieve the entrenched at Islamabad.
In South America, the USAR decides to throw everything at Argentina.  The battles go very well for the USAR.  At this point, Nixon feels like he has no choice.  He orders atomic bombs dropped on New Delhi and Quito.  On what would later be called the Day of Darkness, April 18, both cities are reduced to rubble.  Within a week, the various nations of each side sue for peace.  WWIII has come to an abrupt end.
In the end, WWIII accomplished very little.  The only changes:
Thailand is now occupied by the US.
Montenegro and Albania now have democratic governments.
The United Arab Republic is now hated by its neighbors.
New Delhi and Quito have been reduced to rubble.
Bangladesh is now an independent nation, and Sikkim has gained independence as well.
Both the US and USSR each had comparatively few casualities.  The brunt of the fighting was done in the UAR, Pakistan, and USAR/Argentina.  Other nations become somewhat angry at each nation.

1962—Mohammad Hatta declares that now that WWIII is over, statehood must become a huge concern for the US.  The Republican-controlled House proposes admitting Guyana, Venezuela, Meta, and Alaska as states.  With few reservations, it passes, and 4 new states join the union on July 4.  When Indian Territory is not admitted, the state goes into a huge riot.  200,000 protestors gather on the Capitol grounds.  Harry Belvin gives an inspiring speech, when all of a sudden, shots ring out.  Harry Belvin has been shot dead.  The people are stunned.  This assassination causes enough backlash to have Congress, in a special session, admit Indian Territory as a state.  Belvin is chosen as the new name for this state.
The USSR puts up a manmade satellite into orbit.  President Nixon and MA Senator John F. Kennedy make a joint goal of sending an American to the moon and safely returning him by 1969, a very lofty goal.

1963—Atlantica grants its Brazilian territory independence.  It wasn’t working out, a few Atlantic islands {all with big cities on them, though}, ruling a much larger segment of Brazil.  The US eyes this area for annexation, but they actually reject the US, even though the Northern Brazil District is becoming more and more cool with being part of the US.
President Nixon decides to go to Dallas in late November 1963.  There, while in a limo in Deeley Plaza, a shot rings out of the Texas School Book Depository, and President Nixon is shot dead.  Lee Harvey Oswald is accused, but killed before he can go to trial.  Gustavo Diaz Ordaz becomes the nation’s first Hispanic president.  He announces that he will pick Henry Cabot Lodge as his VP.
Martin Luther King makes his “I have a dream” speech, and President Ordaz is in full support of King.

1964—President Ordaz manages to pass a bill proclaiming the Lesser Antilles, the Bahamas, and Belize {formerly British Honduras} as the 116th, 117th, and 118th states.
The presidential election is fast approaching.  The Republicans, with a little dismay, nominate Ordaz/Lodge.  Some bigotry causes some defection into the American Party, who renominate Harry Byrd, along with Marvin Griffin.  Several contend for the Progressive nomination, but Lyndon B. Johnson is able to secure it in the end.  Mohammad Hatta and the Statehood Coalition endorse Ordaz, all but guaranteeing his victory.

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« Reply #172 on: May 22, 2004, 09:53:10 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2004, 11:59:26 AM by Senator Harry, PPT-Senate »

1965—The American Party hates Ordaz a lot, and some Republicans question him, while Progressives like him.  All in all, though, he is a uniter, and very unpolarizing.  His approval rating stands at 81%.
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Ordaz drafts the Interstate Highway Program, which was defeated during Eisenhower’s presidency.  The ambitious program proposes interstate highways across the US, including Africa and Southeast Asia, and a very ambitious bridge across the Bering Strait.  Hatta is elated; putting these interstates through less developed land will promote trade and provide jobs.  The American Party condemns such a plan.

1966—With the Mercury program completed, and Gemini going on schedule, many people are beginning to think that the Americans could get to the moon by 1969.  South Africa is admitted as a state.
The nation mourns as Theodore Roosevelt dies at age 107, and the nation goes into mourning.  His birthday, October 27, is made a national holiday by executive order of President Ordaz.

1967—A fire on the Apollo 1 launchpad results in the deaths of three American astronauts.  The space program is pushed back somewhat, but President Ordaz assures everyone that things will be ok, and the space program must move on.  The Statehood Act passes through Congress over the deep discord of the American Party, proclaiming that at least two new states will be created every year on July 4 until all districts have become states.  On July 4, the District of Germany is divided into three states, bringing the total to 122:  Westphalia, Rhineland, and Brandenburg.  Martin Luther King makes

1968—The presidential election season starts up again.  President Ordaz, despite his popularity, decides not to seek another term.  He turns the Republican nomination over to his VP Lodge, and Spiro Agnew of MD is nominated for VP.  Alabama governor George Wallace runs with General Curtis LeMay under the American Party.  He speaks out to many people frustrated with spending much money in Africa and SE Asia, and with the Statehood Act.  His platform calls for cessation of financing and eventual independence of non-North American territories.  Quite a few people seek the Progressive nomination in 1968, including Hubert Humphrey, Eugene McCarthy, John F. Kennedy, and Robert Kennedy.  RFK seems to be getting the nomination, but after his impressive win in the CA primary, he is shot dead by Sirhan Sirhan.  His brother John is sweeps the next few primaries and wins the nomination.  He picks Harold Wilson of Britain as his running mate.
A referendum in Thailand chooses to become a district, due to circumstances, the process isn't completed until November 19, after election day.
Congress decides to grant statehood to Quebec and Suriname.
Martin Luther King is assassinated in Memphis, to the dismay of many.
As Election Day nearens, several surprising trends emerge:  the Latin American states will be more competitive, and George Wallace has much more support than Byrd did.  With both Lodge and Kennedy from Massachusetts, New England is a big tossup.  For the first time, the Statehood Coalition decides against endorsing a candidate, the districts are somewhat split.
By the end, though, Kennedy’s Catholicism helps him pull through in the Latin American states and sweep the election.  Though the electoral college is a landslide, the national popular vote was Kennedy 41, Lodge 40, Wallace 16.


1969—John F. Kennedy is inaugurated as the nation’s 40th president.  
Ghana and Angola are admitted into statehood.
On July 20, astronauts Neil Armstrong and Yuri Gagarin {his parents escaped into American Siberia in his youth} are the first men to walk on the moon.  A commemorative plaque is left behind, with the names of Armstrong, Gagarin, Kennedy, and Nixon.
The “Amazing” New York Mets win the World Series in five games over the heavily favored Bogotá Bombers.

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« Reply #173 on: May 23, 2004, 11:09:51 AM »

Why would Arafat send a terrorist to kill Bobby Kennedy in this TL? Certainly not for his support for Israel, as in real life. Or are their Palestinian Nationalists protesting their incorporation into the UAR?
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« Reply #174 on: May 23, 2004, 11:17:36 AM »

Why would Arafat send a terrorist to kill Bobby Kennedy in this TL? Certainly not for his support for Israel, as in real life. Or are their Palestinian Nationalists protesting their incorporation into the UAR?
Since there is no Isreal in this TL, i guess there are other reasons.
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