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« Reply #175 on: May 23, 2004, 11:40:55 AM »

What happended in the 1968 Thailand refferendum?  Also will the space program continue as in OTL or will it be different?
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« Reply #176 on: May 23, 2004, 12:01:47 PM »

What happended in the 1968 Thailand refferendum?  Also will the space program continue as in OTL or will it be different?

Thanks for pointing out the Thailand thing.  I've fixed the problem.  As for the space program, it'll probably go somewhat different, much of it depending on who the president is.
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« Reply #177 on: May 24, 2004, 07:16:07 AM »

Now there's a lot of new states! Thought WWIII would have a greater effect. Anyway great update and time for some new states!
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« Reply #178 on: May 24, 2004, 05:03:07 PM »

Does Herbert Hoover get to live longer than 90 years in this timeline?
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« Reply #179 on: May 24, 2004, 05:32:15 PM »

Does Herbert Hoover get to live longer than 90 years in this timeline?
If TR can be 107, then certainly Hoover can live at least as long Smiley
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« Reply #180 on: May 28, 2004, 12:59:41 AM »

I'm bumping this.  I want at least one topic of substance on the entire first page of this board.
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« Reply #181 on: May 28, 2004, 01:21:13 AM »

Actually, if you had read "the fair actress for president poll" you would know it actually has a full, non-humorous, and almost believable future history timeline on it. Why don't you check it out, vote, and leave a message?
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« Reply #182 on: May 28, 2004, 01:40:04 AM »

Alright, yours has a story.  Yours is fine too, heh Wink

I'm just tired of the random "vs" polls.
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« Reply #183 on: May 28, 2004, 09:19:47 AM »

I'm working on the 1970's now, and perhaps can post it by this afternoon.
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« Reply #184 on: May 29, 2004, 11:21:31 AM »

Harry, it's nice to know that a good timeline still exists in this board.
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« Reply #185 on: May 31, 2004, 01:36:26 PM »

Hopefully we can get some more soon?
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« Reply #186 on: May 31, 2004, 11:13:01 PM »

yes, i'll update before i leave for DC.
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« Reply #187 on: May 31, 2004, 11:22:06 PM »

Opebo will be heart-broken by Thailand falling to Communism!!!!!!!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its true I would be.  It had a narrow enough escape in the 1970's - the Thai army had to get pretty harsh.  I'm happy to say its currently a very capitalist place.
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« Reply #188 on: June 01, 2004, 09:23:45 PM »

1970—George Wallace takes an unexpected trip to Southeast Asia to meet with a young dissident by the name of Pol Pot.  They talk for a long time about how the United States should leave the region.  Pol Pot is suspected to be both Communist and evil, especially by Mohammad Hatta, but he agrees to help campaign for the American Party.  From this point forward, the American Party becomes popular in districts by those who support independence.
French Guiana and Taiwan are admitted into statehood.
Mohammad Hatta proposes the Fair Districts Act, which essentially proposes that no district is to have a larger population than the largest state.  This act would create many new districts in SE Asia.  Though the Act is eventually defeated, President Kennedy does get an act passed that creates a few more districts, including Papua New Guinea, and dividing Indonesia into 3 districts [Jakarta, Aceh and Borneo, East Indonesia}.  Pol Pot is elected to Congress as the Indochina District’s representative, the first member of the American Party to come from a district.  Apollos 12, 13, and 14 travel to the moon without incident.

1971—In January, former Boer lands are admitted as the state of Orange.  Many are disgruntled with the fact that the area is to become one large state, with 50 electoral votes, the nation’s largest, but despite them, it does.  The House of Representatives chamber, which now holds over 1200 congressmen, is getting a bit crowded.  Some shortsided person decides to sit representatives by region, and Pol Pot and Mohammad Hatta are seated next to each other.  Shouting matches and arguments become frequent; they almost come to blows more than once.  Hawaii is granted statehood later that year.  Apollos 15, 16, and 17 make missions to the moon.

1972—The Kennedy/Wilson administration enters the election year with a high probably of reelection.  The nation is in a high, and getting even higher.  Improving matters, the Republican Party has no viable candidate to even challenge him.  Several candidates emerge.  MD governor Spiro Agnew, CA governor Ronald Reagan, Orange governor Nicholas Diederichs, and MI Representative Gerald Ford, all declare candidacy.  Another group of people back former president Ordaz, despite the fact he says he doesn’t want the nomination.  Diederichs campaigns throughout Iowa, and manages to pull of an impressive win there.  In the next primaries, NH and OG{whose legislature cleverly put an early primary to helpout Diederichs}, are also won by Diederichs.  Though Ford and Agnew each win a few, the big battle is between Diederichs and Reagan.  In the end Diedrichs wins the nomination, and rather than picking a sensible running mate {Reagan}, he chooses Oswaldo Lopez Arellano of Honduras, who came into the governership by . . . questionable . . . means.  The ticket of Diederichs/Lopez gains some steam in places, but Diederichs support of the now-abolished apartheid system scares many people.  Some Republicans defect to Kennedy; others defect to the American Party, breathing new life into the floundering party, and prompting George Wallace and Curtis LeMay to make a second run.
Then, in May, while campaigning, George Wallace is shot.  In a shocking move, he announces that he’s gonna drop out of the race, and because Diederichs’s blatant support of a racist policy, he endorses Kennedy.
A breakin occurs at Kennedy headquarters in June.  Agents of Diederichs are shown to be the culprits.  This tarnishes Diederichs’s already bleak image.
In August, Sabah and Sarawak are admitted into statehood, in time enough to vote in the presidential election.  Not that it matters . . . Wallace’s endorsement, fears of Diederichs’s extremism, and Watergate are enough to give Kennedy the election in an all-but-one-state landslide.


1973—The first space station, Skylab enters service in Earth orbit.  The Ivory Coast is admitted into statehood, along with Senegambia.
Leaders from Argentine-occupied Brazil and the US District of North Brazil meet with leaders of the Independent Atlantic Brazil.  They begin discussing reuniting the three parts into a new nation of Brazil {of course, the jungles occupied by USAR wouldn’t be  a part}.  President Kennedy says he will allow the District of North Brazil to hold a referendum.  Cleverly upping the stakes, he puts statehood and independence as the only two options.  Surprisingly enough, Argentine Brazil votes to join Atlantic Brazil in a new Republic of Brazil, while North Brazil chooses statehood.  In a treaty with the new Brazilian republic, slight boundary changes are made to make the boundary correspond to Brazillian states, rather than arbitrary division.  Two new states are scheduled to enter the union from the district in January 1974.

1974—The Final Apollo Missions, Apollos 18 and 19 land on the moon.  NASA begins to concentrate on space stations.  Bahia and North Brazil become states.  In the midterm elections, the Democrats lose several seats, but maintain their lose hold on Congress.  Republicans make gains in the west, and the American party holds strong, especially in Indochina, were Pol Pot is highly reelected.  Seeing the threat that Pol Pot makes on stability in the region, President Kennedy and Mohammad Hatta begin drawing up maps on statehood for Indochina.  In sports, the Stockholm Blitz defeat the Monrovia Warriors in the first Superbowl involving no North American teams.

1975—Cambodia, Laos, North Vietnam, and South Vietnam are admitted to the union in January.  Some people disgruntle at North and South Vietnam now being the two largest states in the union, but oh well.  Pol Pot becomes the leader of the American Party after George Wallace’s final retirement.  Despite the fact that Cambodia is now a state, he still dreams of his own nation in SE Asia.

1976—The Republicans enter the presidential election year with a lot against them.  JFK is very popular, but he announces in February that he won’t seek reelection due to back trouble.  His VP Harold Wilson surprisingly announces that he’s retiring and won’t seeking the Progressive nomination.  The main contenders for the nomination turn out to be Quebec senator Pierre Elliot Trudeau and Georgia governor Jimmy Carter.  Contenders for the Republican nomination include Ronald Reagan of CA, NZ governor Robert David Muldoon, MI Representative Gerald Ford, and AB senator Joe Clark.  The American Party has no viable candidate, and Pol Pot announces his candidacy in March.  Carter and Trudeau continue in a dogfight for the Progressive nomination, and Reagan begins to pull away with the Republican nomination when he decides to also seek the American nomination.  His fusion ticket catches on, and he begins sweeping the primaries of both parties.
In June, Italy invokes the Roosevelt Doctrine and proclaims that it has joined the US as four states.  Some people are taken aback, but Congress accepts Italy into the union.  It has become four states:  North Italy, Roma, Tyrrhenia, on the mainland & Sicily, and Italy’s island possessions of Sardinia, Corsica, Malta, and Balearics as the state of Mediterranea.  San Marino and Vatican City cease being sovereign nations and become part of the states of Italy.  Andorra joins the state of Aquitaine.  Monaco joins the state of Mediterranea.
Carter finally secures the nomination at the convention and chooses Trudeau as his VP to help heal the rift.  Reagan chooses Joe Clark as his running mate on his Republican/American coalition ticket.  Carter and Reagan debate several times, with both candidates coming across very well.
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« Reply #189 on: June 01, 2004, 09:24:55 PM »

Sorry I couldn't complete the decade, but I have a 7 AM flight to DC tomorrow morning, which means I have to get up at about 4:30ish, but I'll complete it as soon as possible when i get back.
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« Reply #190 on: June 02, 2004, 08:31:41 AM »

Good Luck at your Schoolastic Compitition Harry.
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« Reply #191 on: June 03, 2004, 07:09:38 AM »

Great update, hope you can get the rest up when you get back and good luck!
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« Reply #192 on: June 07, 2004, 03:09:27 PM »

I've just read it all and I loved it. Very nice detail the referendums in Denmark and Sweden, but why does Norway have more electoral votes then Sweden and Denmark. There is 5.4 mil in Denmark, (4.5 in 1945), 8.7 in Sweden (7.6 in 1945) and 4.7 in Norway (3.9 in 1945) (Please say stop if this is getting too weird - it's a trademark of my profession ;-)

nuf said - It is a good story. I WANT MORE
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« Reply #193 on: June 10, 2004, 10:18:29 PM »

1976, part II:
Election night!:  Reagan and Carter both know the election will be very close, probably within a couple million popular votes and 20 or less electoral votes.  
Reagan can’t be upset with the early results, winning most of the Pacific Rim, and then splitting Europe with Carter.  In the end, Reagan squeaks out a win by the narrowest of margins.  JFK must be kicking himself for letting the Italian states in, which gave Reagan the margin for victory.


1977—Reagan is inaugurated as president.  In his inauguration, he promises to be stringent on the communist nations of USSR, China, Iceland, and India.
Gabon and Namibia are granted statehood.
John Rockefeller III receives the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to improve Equatorial Africa.  Reagan begins upping nuclear arms and sets off a race with the Communist nations.
The Supreme Court legalizes abortion across America, to the dismay of the Republican Party and much of Southern Europe and Latin America.  Pope Paul VI {now residing on American soil} condemns the decision.  Reagan calls for a constitutional amendment banning abortion [AAA].  At the same time, more liberal members of Congress propose the Equal Rights Amendment [ERA], and an amendment banning capital punishment is put forward [DPA].  Another amendment revamping presidential succession [PSA] to go VP-Speaker of House-PPT Senate-Sec State-AG . . . . is also proposed.  In December, and amendment lowering the voting age to 18 [18A] is proposed, making 1977 the “Year of Amendments.”

1978—With Reagan’s endorsement, 18A passes.  Another amendment is proposed, banning poll tax [PTA], which passes by the end of the year, as the 22nd amendment.  The DPA and AAA are grouped together by an ingenious congressman, calling it the “Life Amendment.”  After much deliberation, the Life Amendment passes in November.
To Hatta’s extreme happiness, Indonesian statehood begins with the admittance of Sumatra and Aceh.
In a little-precedented move, John F. Kennedy is elected back into the House of Representatives in Massachusetts.  The Progressives don’t hold a majority, but he is made minority leader.

1979—Borneo and New Guinea are granted statehood.  Mohammad Hatta dies in Jakarta in February, elated that his dream has finally come true.  Iceland, India, China, and USSR sign the Leningrad Pact, each promising forever loyalty.
In Atlantica, Prince Charles {British} marries Princess Maria {French/Spanish} to unite the houses of Atlantica.  The monarch does have limited power, though most of it is in parliament.  The ERA finally passes through Congress, but is not ratified by too many states.  
The 24th amendment, the PSA passes.  Communist forces take over Afghanistan.

1980—The Progressives enter the election year with high hopes.  Reagan’s presidency hasn’t turned out that great.  The only major contender for the party’s nomination is Malcolm Fraser of Victoria.  He chooses Walter Mondale of  MN for his running mate.  The Republican and American Parties overwhelmingly renominate Reagan/Clark.  His supporters are positive that he will be reelected.
Celebes and Timor are admitted as states in time to vote in the upcoming election, leaving only the island of Java without Indonesian statehood.
Fraser and Reagan debate several times, and Fraser leads in the polls, but after Communist forces are forced out of Afghanistan, Reagan squeaks reelection out barely, losing in the popular vote 49-48.

At the same time, the Progressives retake the House, and former president Kennedy is made Speaker of the House.

1981—Reagan is inaugurated in his second term.  Then, on March 29, Reagan himself is shot by John Hinckley, and dies shortly thereafter, shocking the nation.  Joe Clark ascends to the presidency, and decides to wait until after Reagan’s funeral to name a vice-president.  Then, shockingly, President Clark himself is assassinated by a Communist sympathizer in Maryland on April 3.  The new 24th amendment dictates that Speaker Kennedy ascend to the presidency.  President Kennedy addresses the nation on the unfortunate events that have occurred, and promises to do his best to serve the nation and honor the now-deceased presidents.  Kennedy makes a surprising move and picks JMG Adams of Barbados as his new vice president.
Java is divided into three states:  West Java, Central Java, and East Java.

1982—The nation wakes up on January 19 to even more shocking news:  President Kennedy has been found dead, due to his bad back and other health problems.  The little-known JMG Adams is now president of the United States, and he nominates Gro Harlem Brundtland as his VP, making her the first woman to hold that position.
TO BE CONTINUED



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« Reply #194 on: June 10, 2004, 10:19:24 PM »

btw, A list of 20th century presidents until 1982:
25. Theodore Roosevelt, 1894-1905, Pop/Prog
26. William Taft, 1905-1909, Prog
27. Theodore Roosevelt, 1909-1913 Prog
28. Hiram Johnson, 1913-1914, Prog—retires after being permanently dismembered in a train wreck
29. Thomas Marshall, 1914-1915, Prog—captured by terrorists and presumed dead
30. Woodrow Wilson, 1915-1917, Prog
31. Robert Borden, 1917-1929, Cons
32. Herbert Hoover, 1929-1933, Cons
33. Theodore Roosevelt, 1933-1937, Prog
34. Franklin Roosevelt, 1937-1945, Prog—dies in office
35. William L. Mackenzie King, 1945-1949, Prog
36. Harry Truman, 1949-1953, Prog
37. Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1953-1961, Prog
38. Richard Nixon, 1961-1963, R—assassinated in Dallas by Lee Harvey Oswald
39. Gustavo Diaz Ordaz, 1963-1969, R
40. John F. Kennedy, 1969-1977, Prog
41. Ronald Reagan, 1977-1981, R—assassinated by John Hinckley shortly after beginning second term
42. Joe Clark, 1981, R—assassinated by Communist sympathizer shortly after becoming president
43. John F. Kennedy, 1981-1982, Prog—dies in office
44. JMG Adams, 1982-, Prog

and constitutional amendments:
1-10. Bill of Rights
11. Suits against States
12. Electors
13. Abolishment of Slavery
14. Former Slaves Are Citizens
15. Former Slaves Have Right to Vote
16. Presidential Succession
17. Direct Election of Senators
18. Income Tax
19. Women’s Suffrage
20. American Territory
21. Voting Age Lowered to 18
22. No Poll Tax
23. No Abortion or Death Penalty
24. Presidential Succession {revamped}
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« Reply #195 on: June 10, 2004, 11:06:34 PM »

Stop killing our presidents!
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« Reply #196 on: June 11, 2004, 03:32:20 AM »

LOL This is getting better and better - and now it's possible to win an election without any of the OTL USA-stats voting for you! Keep up the good work, Harry
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« Reply #197 on: June 11, 2004, 04:35:57 AM »

Why is the Pope now residing on American soil? Did the Vatican become part of the USA?

Interesting development with JFK there.
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« Reply #198 on: June 11, 2004, 09:39:49 AM »

Why is the Pope now residing on American soil? Did the Vatican become part of the USA?

Interesting development with JFK there.

It's not indepedent; it's just an area of Rome that the US government ignores and lets it do its own thing, but it is offically part of the USA and the state of Roma.
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« Reply #199 on: June 11, 2004, 09:42:09 AM »

Why is the Pope now residing on American soil? Did the Vatican become part of the USA?

Interesting development with JFK there.

It's not indepedent; it's just an area of Rome that the US government ignores and lets it do its own thing, but it is offically part of the USA and the state of Roma.

Vatican is a separate nation.
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