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Title: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: 2952-0-0 on October 06, 2006, 11:25:47 AM
A Dutch political party formed by a group of paedophiles is unlikely to take part in the country's November elections due to a lack of support.
The Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity Party (PNVD) said it had only gathered 100 of the 570 signatures needed by the 10 October deadline.

It believes would-be supporters are afraid to publicly give their backing.

The party seeks to lower the age of sexual consent to 12, and legalise child pornography and sex with animals.

The PNVD was formed by three paedophiles in May, prompting outrage in Dutch society.

Breaking taboos

Party chairman Martijn Uittenbogaard said people were afraid of the consequences of showing their support.

"People will publish the names and addresses of anybody who signs on the internet, and hand out flyers in their neighbourhood," he told the Associated Press.

PNVD secretary Norbert de Jonge told the Reuters news agency: "They are afraid that their windows will be smashed, just as happened yesterday to our chairman."

The group would need around 60,000 votes to win just one seat in parliament, and pollsters have estimated that the party would have barely gained 1,000 votes in the national election.

In July, a Dutch court ruled that the party had a right to exist, after children's right activists sought to ban it.

The PNVD says its aim is to break taboos and fight intolerance, and that paedophilia should be freely discussed, arguing that a ban just makes children curious.

They say the subject has been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in Belgium.

The party also wants children from the age of 12 to be able to vote. It promotes the legalisation of hard and soft drugs, and free train travel for all.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on October 06, 2006, 04:02:51 PM
Good. Shame the dutch don't lock those perverts up.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Tory on October 06, 2006, 05:46:16 PM
arguing that a ban just makes children curious.

That statement is just so completely dumb I have a hard time fathoming that a sentient being could even think of uttering it


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: opebo on October 07, 2006, 02:07:17 AM
What do they have to do with 'pedophilia'?  They only propose lowering the age of consent to 12.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2006, 10:09:58 AM
A Dutch political party formed by a group of paedophiles is unlikely to take part in the country's November elections due to a lack of support.

Thank God for that. Even in the socially liberal and tolerant Netherlands, I'd be highly alarmed if this party got sufficient enough support to obtain seats in Parliament

Dave


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2006, 10:11:30 AM
What do they have to do with 'pedophilia'?  They only propose lowering the age of consent to 12.

So they only propose lowering the age of consent to 12, do they?

Well, it's too young an age of consent. End of!

Dave


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on October 07, 2006, 10:25:19 AM
What do they have to do with 'pedophilia'?  They only propose lowering the age of consent to 12.

So they only propose lowering the age of consent to 12, do they?

Well, it's too young an age of consent. End of!

Dave
You actually take opebo seriously?


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Citizen James on October 07, 2006, 01:53:16 PM
Not suprising.  They were in trouble  from the day they were founded.  It is good to see that the vast majority of the Dutch do not embrace  such an abhorent  worldview.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: opebo on October 08, 2006, 08:42:10 PM
What do they have to do with 'pedophilia'?  They only propose lowering the age of consent to 12.

So they only propose lowering the age of consent to 12, do they?

Well, it's too young an age of consent. End of!

Dave
You actually take opebo seriously?

You are a fool if you consider it impossible to seriously hold the position that the age of consent should be lowered to 12, or preferably elminated, fascist.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 08, 2006, 09:01:35 PM
What do they have to do with 'pedophilia'?  They only propose lowering the age of consent to 12.

So they only propose lowering the age of consent to 12, do they?

Well, it's too young an age of consent. End of!

Dave
You actually take opebo seriously?

You are a fool if you consider it impossible to seriously hold the position that the age of consent should be lowered to 12, or preferably elminated, fascist.

Quite the contrary, if anything I'm a voice of reason. Just because they might be biologically old enough at 12, it doesn't correlate that they are emotionally old enough

Dave


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: opebo on October 08, 2006, 09:43:47 PM
What do they have to do with 'pedophilia'?  They only propose lowering the age of consent to 12.

So they only propose lowering the age of consent to 12, do they?

Well, it's too young an age of consent. End of!

Dave
You actually take opebo seriously?

You are a fool if you consider it impossible to seriously hold the position that the age of consent should be lowered to 12, or preferably elminated, fascist.

Quite the contrary, if anything I'm a voice of reason. Just because they might be biologically old enough at 12, it doesn't correlate that they are emotionally old enough

Dave

I was calling Straha a fool, not you Dave.

However, they are old enough.  See, we each have our subjective opinion on the subject.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on October 08, 2006, 11:21:45 PM
The Republican party should help out their brothers.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: freek on October 11, 2006, 06:54:42 AM
Not a surprise. I already predicted it 3 months ago. https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=42507.msg940583#msg940583 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=42507.msg940583#msg940583).

The party is not the only victim of the 30 signatures per district barrier. Yesterday, at least 5 potential participants in the elections announced that they weren't able to take part because of a lack of signatures.



Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: MasterJedi on October 11, 2006, 08:07:10 AM
Good. Shame the dutch don't lock those perverts up.

^^^ The Truth.

The Republican party should help out their brothers.

Jfraud should just shut up becuase he has nothing of worth to say, maybe if you go and stay at DailyKos you can continued to be brainwashed into everything you hear from the far left is true!


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on October 11, 2006, 09:27:59 AM
But JFraud is too liberal for DailyKos! That'
s why he's here.


Title: Re: Dutch pedophile party in trouble
Post by: Joe Republic on October 11, 2006, 03:16:29 PM
Jfraud should just shut up becuase he has nothing of worth to say

I hope the irony of this is not lost on anybody.