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General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Reid to revisit nuke option in July?
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on: May 17, 2013, 04:15:58 pm
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Filibuster reform should be all or nothing... quit with the stupid nuclear options just to get what you want only when you think it's important. They should require actual filibusters to be a filibuster, and that'd solve everything.
The "nuclear option" isn't a type of filibuster reform, it's a procedural way for Reid to pass real reform (requiring a spoken filibuster, like you suggested) that only requires 51 votes to pass. It's kind of a stupid name, because only in the US Senate would something passing by a majority be called "nuclear." I understand what the nuclear option is. But the way to go about not having your nominees filibustered is not to say, "Well, nominees should be an exception to the filibuster rule." Why not? A nominee is fundamentally different from a piece of legislation. For example, the ability to pressure the majority to allow an amendment to a bill be considered prior to a vote on that bill is one of the most important benefits of the filibuster.
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Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The official Oldiesfreak thread
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on: May 17, 2013, 04:01:18 am
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How is Lenin losing?
My feelings exactly, especially considering how many people on here are big lovers of Eugene Debs. Anyway, if it's a US election, Thatcher/Thatcher. If it's a global one, Thatcher/Lenin.  the crazy thing is, Lenin's actually winning.
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General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SC rules for Monsanto, says farmer violated genetically modified soybeans patent
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on: May 17, 2013, 03:57:30 am
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You can't rule against somebody because you don't like them, you all should know this.
Yeah, abusing jurisprudence to hurt companies that we may, even with very good reason, dislike is not the sort of behavior we should be encouraging out of our highest court. Absolutely. Still, I disagree with this decision, or at least the legislation upon which it is based. A seed is self-replicating by nature, and a company should not be able to use the law to prohibit this.
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General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Did Republicans alter the Benghazi emails to make Obama look bad?
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on: May 17, 2013, 03:07:00 am
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People who believe in Benghazi believe CBS News works for the White House. You couldn't convince them this happened if you actually showed them it happened.
True, there's not much reasoning you can do with the 49% who think that ACORN stole the 2012 election. No way 49% of Americans or any significant subset of the population believes that. Polls that ask leading questions end up with these nonsense results.
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General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: question about the closed borders crowd
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on: May 16, 2013, 11:40:24 pm
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The Sierra Club was in favor of limiting immigration in the 70s and 80s for the sake of "population stabilization." In 1996 they adopted neutrality on the issue. Now they oppose things like a border wall due to interrupting animal habitats, but there are still some members who are immigration restrictionists and make efforts from time to time to move the organization in that direction.
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Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction
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on: May 16, 2013, 10:19:11 pm
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2. It's not surprising at all that neither Marokai nor Antonio bothered to make any sort of substantial argument.
What?!? MB itemized, link by link, statement by statement, direct compelling documentation of EVERY allegation. How much more 'substantive' an argument can one present?? I mean this litterally and without an ounce of hyperbole: WTF are you talking about? I think he was talking about Marokai and Antonio's statements about him. In any case, this argument has run its course so don't feel like you need to resurrect it. Because A Person's critique is very much based on facts and logical argumentation...  I think baseless personal attacks are deserving of a bit more scrutiny than other types of statements. Click on blue words, it leads to various posts providing a base. read that more carefully. I wasn't talking about anything to do with koenkai.
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Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Voting Both: May 2013 Elections
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on: May 16, 2013, 09:52:21 pm
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Executive Election: [ 1 ] Clinton1996/Siren [ 2 ] ZuWo/Cathcon [ 3 ] Drj101/Write-in: _Oldiesfreak____
Legislative Election: [ 3] Odysseus [ 5] Inks.LWC [ ] HoosierPoliticalJunkie [ ] MilesC56 [ 2] a Person [ 4] LumineVonReuental [ ] Oldiesfreak1854 [ 1] Shua [ ] Gass3268 [ ] TNF [ ] Write-In: __________ [ ] Write-In: __________
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Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction
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on: May 16, 2013, 07:46:15 pm
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2. It's not surprising at all that neither Marokai nor Antonio bothered to make any sort of substantial argument.
What?!? MB itemized, link by link, statement by statement, direct compelling documentation of EVERY allegation. How much more 'substantive' an argument can one present?? I mean this litterally and without an ounce of hyperbole: WTF are you talking about? I think he was talking about Marokai and Antonio's statements about him. In any case, this argument has run its course so don't feel like you need to resurrect it. Because A Person's critique is very much based on facts and logical argumentation...  I think baseless personal attacks are deserving of a bit more scrutiny than other types of statements. But that's just because I'm a horrible moderate hero with no controversial opinions. 
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