Atlas Forum Office Holders

[KEmperor]

Presidency (Elections every 4 months.  Next election:  Weekend of February 17th.)

President - Joe Republic (Ind-OH)
Vice-President - Defarge (Ind-NY)
 
Cabinet (Appointed by President with Senate approval)

Secretary of State - True Independent (Ind-WA)
Secretary of Forum Affairs - Alcon (Ind-WA)
Attorney General - BrandonH (ACA-LA)
Secretary of Defense - Dubya (ACA-KS)
Secretary of the Treasury - Supersoulty (Christ-PA)

Composition
Conservative Alliance - 2 Positions
Christian Democrat - 1 Position
Independent - 2 Positions

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Senate (Regional seats are concurrent with the Presidential election, district seats are midterm election seats.  Next district election will be weekend of December 9th)

Northeast - ColinW (U-PA)
Mideast - MasterJedi (ACA-WI)
Southeast - Jake (Christ-GA)
Midwest - DanielX (ACA-WY)
Pacific - Hughento (Ind-OR)
District 1 - Texasgurl (Social-NH)
District 2 - Al (Christ-WV)
District 3 - PBrunsel (ACA-IA)
District 4 - Ebowed (IL-SC)
District 5 - Gabu (Ind-UT)

Composition
Conservative Alliance - 3 Senators
Christian Democrats - 2 Senators
Constitutional Union - 1 Senator
Social Democrats - 1 Senator
Independent Liberal - 1 Senator
Independent - 2 Senators

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Governors:
Northeastern Region - Elections are every 4 months, next election will be weekend of February 3rd
Mideastern Region - Elections are every 4 months, next election will be weekend of January 20th
Midwestern Region - Elections are concurrent with the Senate midterms (weekend of December 9th)
Southeastern Region - Elections are every 2 months, next election will be weekend of December 9th
Pacific Region - Elections are concurrent with the Senate midterms (weekend of December 9th)


Northeastern Region - EarlAW (Social-NY), Lt. Gov. Max Power (U-PA)
Mideastern Region - 9iron (ACA-MI), Lt. Gov. Ben (U-VA)
Midwestern Region - Jas (IL-IA), Lt. Gov. Everett (Loony-WY)
Southeastern Region - TCash101 (IL-TN), Lt. Gov. Ian (IL-LA)
Pacific Region - John Ford (U-CA), Lt. Gov AKSaber (ACA-AK)

Composition:
Independent Liberal - 2 Governors, 1 Lt. Gov.
Constitutional Union - 1 Governor, 2 Lt. Govs.
Conservative Alliance - 1 Governor, 1 Lt. Gov.
Social Democrats - 1 Governor
Loony Party - 1 Lt. Gov.

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Supreme Court (Appointed by President with Senate approval)

Chief Justice - Vacant
Assoc. Justice - Ernest (IL-SC) [Appointed by True Democrat]
Assoc. Justice - Peter Bell (IL-IN) [Appointed by Siege40]

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This list is courtesy of yours truly.  I will update it as conditions permit.

[Gustaf]

It's linked from StevenNick's page that has to be there due to a bill passed by the senate.

[King]

Migrendel has resigned from the court to run for Senate, we need a replacement.

I've made a decision. I have decided to resign my seat on the Supreme Court to seek a seat in the Atlas Forum Senate as the candidate of the United Left.

[KEmperor]

Updated.

[The Duke]

I think there should be a list of agencies under the control of each office.  Here is one that I think makes sense.

State
State

Defense
Defense
Veteran's Affairs
Homeland Security
CIA, NSA
Energy??

Treasury
Treasury
Commerce
Labor
HHS
Social Security Administration
SEC
Education??
HUD??

Attorney General
Justice
Interior??
Transportation??

Forum Affairs
Federal Election Commission
FCC



This made me realize how much we should create a Secretary of health, Education, and Welfare.  That person should handle the social welfare polcies.

[Platypus]

SESH-Secretary for Social Security, Education and Health. I like it

[Niles Caulder]

I think there should be a list of agencies under the control of each office.  Here is one that I think makes sense.

State
State

Defense
Defense
Veteran's Affairs
Homeland Security
CIA, NSA
Energy??

Treasury
Treasury
Commerce
Labor
HHS
Social Security Administration
SEC
Education??
HUD??

Attorney General
Justice
Interior??
Transportation??

Forum Affairs
Federal Election Commission
FCC



This made me realize how much we should create a Secretary of health, Education, and Welfare.  That person should handle the social welfare polcies.

As probably most people would have guessed, I like this line of thinking.  I'd probably put Energy under the Treasury Secretary's supervision.

A quiet but important inclusion under State is USAID.

I for one think the question of assigning (dismantaling, creating) intelligence agencies is a fun one...as it's a hot real-life issue as we speak.  I'd enjoy seeing the Administration and Senate try to work out their ideas of the best solution.  Of course maybe I'm the only who thinks that'd be fun.  I'm a sick, sick man.  Up to y'all.

HHS, Education, HUD...if those issues ever came up in the Executive Branch, I'd think they'd be better off with a seperate Supervisor than Treasury.  Until then, I haven't observed any real interest in them whatsoever.

The great thing about this approach is that it keeps the number of Dept. heads to a minumum...which greatly improves the Administration's response time and doesn't bog down the game with TOO much bureaucracy.  The Presidency overseeing 5-6 team members formulating successful policy is just about ideal, imo.

[Akno21]

If we create any more government jobs, half the people on Fantasy Elections will be working for the government. I think we now have 27, counting the governors.

[Niles Caulder]

If we create any more government jobs, half the people on Fantasy Elections will be working for the government. I think we now have 27, counting the governors.

Isn't that what most people are here for?  To run for/achieve office?

At any rate, JF didn't propose creating any new positions, and I mentioned only if somebody hypothetically gave a fig about HHS or Education.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

If we create any more government jobs, half the people on Fantasy Elections will be working for the government. I think we now have 27, counting the governors.

The main point of John's proposal isn't to create more fantasy positions, but to specify what portions of the real government correspond to our six fantasy deptartments.
He leff off his list the existing Secretary of Labor who certainly could handle want he envisions for a Secretary of HEW

That said, here's how I'd prefer to see the division of the real-life cabinet and some of the more important independent agencies:

State
State
Interior
Transportation
FCC
GSA

Defense
Defense
Veteran's Affairs
Homeland Security
CIA
NSA
NASA

Treasury
Treasury
Agriculture
Commerce
Energy
SBA

Attorney General
Justice
FBI
SEC
CPSC
EPA

Labor
Labor
Health and Human Services
Housing and Urban Development
Education
SSA
EEOC

Forum Affairs
FEC

[The Duke]

Ernest,

There  is no Secretary of Labor.  We replaced him with Treasury, hence the Dept. of labor was placed under Ben's purview.

Good catch on Agriculture and NASA, I forgot about them.


Niles,

Isn't USAID a part of the State Dept.?  Maybe I'm wrong.


Everyone,

I put Energy under my department because the nuclear labs like Los Alamos seem to best fit under DoD.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

We don't have a Labor secretary because Gustaf chose to not appoint one.  Tecnhically, the constitution still calls for a Secretary of Labor as one of the five constitutionally mandated Cabinet positions.  If Gustaf wanted to, he could nominate one and doing so would certainly be the easiest way to have a dedicated social services secretary.

USAID was an independent agency until '98 when most of the independent foreign affairs agencies got merged into the State Department.  The aministarion of USAID still has a fair degree of independence from the State Department as Powell can't just transfer functions to or from it as is often the case with department bureaus, but if it is something the law says  that USAID is supposed to do, Powell can tell Natsios how he wants it done, and Natsios has to do it that way.

Granted, a large chunk of Energy's budget is tied up with nuclear weapons production, and the cleaning up of old production facilities, but it doesn't deploy the weapons itself, so in that respect iit just functions as a government owned defense contractor.  The rest of its functions are not directly defense related.  If Energy were eliminated, most of its functions would transfer to Commerce, and if Commerce were eliminated, most of its functions would transfer to Treasury, so within the existing Forum cabinet departments, Energy best fits in with Treasury in my opinion.

[PBrunsel]

Though Ilikeverin's name looks very nice by Midwest govenor, I took the oath of office last Thurday.

But feel no hurry to change it.

[PBrunsel]

Don't be so demanding.  Especially with the Chief Justice.....

I am sorry, I did say "Feel no hurry to change it."

Keep Verin's name there forever if you want. It looks better than mine.

[JohnFKennedy]

Don't be so demanding.  Especially with the Chief Justice.....

I am sorry, I did say "Feel no hurry to change it."

Keep Verin's name there forever if you want. It looks better than mine.

I think he was kidding because you weren't being at all demanding......

[PBrunsel]

Don't be so demanding.  Especially with the Chief Justice.....

I am sorry, I did say "Feel no hurry to change it."

Keep Verin's name there forever if you want. It looks better than mine.

I think he was kidding because you weren't being at all demanding......

Oh, alright.

[KEmperor]

JFK is now President with Gustaf's resignation.

[JohnFKennedy]

JFK is now President with Gustaf's resignation.

I have to be sworn in don't I?

[King]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

[Patunia]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

Wouldnt the current governor appoint a senator to that seat until the next election?

[JohnFKennedy]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

Wouldnt the current governor appoint a senator to that seat until the next election?

Nope, Governors reside over Regions, Senators are elected from Districts, they are different and as such one Senate seat may not be solely under one Governor's jurisdiction (which this one isn't if I recall correctly)

All open seats are decided by a special election.

[King]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

Wouldnt the current governor appoint a senator to that seat until the next election?

Thats not in our Constitution....

[JohnFKennedy]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

Wouldnt the current governor appoint a senator to that seat until the next election?

Thats not in our Constitution....

It WAS. We amended it.

[King]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

Wouldnt the current governor appoint a senator to that seat until the next election?

Thats not in our Constitution....

It WAS. We amended it.

Well its not in our Constitution at the moment...

[Patunia]

I am announcing that I will seek the District 5A senate seat currently held by Senator Kennedy.

Wouldnt the current governor appoint a senator to that seat until the next election?

Thats not in our Constitution....

It WAS. We amended it.

Well its not in our Constitution at the moment...

Guess I need to read those amendments again. Have only read them once and didnt digest much.