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WalterMitty
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« on: August 04, 2004, 10:12:39 PM »

geez, i hope not.   ive never been a fan of moderation.

but i took the political compass test again and scored a 4.88 economic, and a perfect 0.00 social.

im not a suburban republican am i? <gasp>

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2004, 10:13:52 PM »

You're an odd one, Walter. I don't think I could place you in any one specific place and call it accurate.

You're open-minded, lets put it that way.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2004, 10:15:17 PM »

Nation,

I agree with that assesment. Walter is definitely hard to "nail down" in terms of his likely positions.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2004, 10:22:39 PM »

geez, i hope not.   ive never been a fan of moderation.

but i took the political compass test again and scored a 4.88 economic, and a perfect 0.00 social.

im not a suburban republican am i? <gasp>

That, or a suburban Democrat.  Not that there's much difference.

I like the term someone coined for me: I'm a "raging moderate"
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2004, 10:29:59 PM »

You rock, Walter Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2004, 10:30:32 PM »

geez, i hope not.   ive never been a fan of moderation.

but i took the political compass test again and scored a 4.88 economic, and a perfect 0.00 social.

im not a suburban republican am i? <gasp>

That, or a suburban Democrat.  Not that there's much difference.

I like the term someone coined for me: I'm a "raging moderate"

Beef,

Actually, there is a MASSIVE difference between a Suburban Republican and a Suburban Democrat. They may have similar views on social/moral issues, but it STOPS there for sure.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2004, 10:31:39 PM »


Funny that you and I have virtually identical scores.

I consider myself much more conservative than you.  

Maybe you are a softy suburban republican.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2004, 11:02:06 PM »

haha, i say you are a soft consv.....


And me... im stupid Cheesy  I have -.5 and 8 something..
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 03:23:23 AM »

The Political Compass is not completely accurate...MANY questions are actually irrelevant to the scales they're using.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2004, 08:05:45 AM »

most of my political heros were liberals--terry sanford, frank porter graham,  robert kennedy.

i actually prefer to look at them as progressives and not liberals.  there is a difference between the two.  john kerry and john edwards are liberals, but there is nothing progressive about them.  there is a shortage of progressives today.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2004, 10:45:25 AM »

most of my political heros were liberals--terry sanford, frank porter graham,  robert kennedy.

i actually prefer to look at them as progressives and not liberals.  there is a difference between the two.  john kerry and john edwards are liberals, but there is nothing progressive about them.  there is a shortage of progressives today.

Liberal is not a bad word.  Remember Bush the Elder used the words liberal and democratic (small l, small d) when he described the Founders' ideals.  Most of my heroes are liberal as well.  At least back when liberal didn't mean taking away your rights to keep your income, bear arms, hire and fire whomever you want for whatever reason, etc.  Presumably you don't like to be called a Liberal Republican.  I also detest that label.  (republicans won't like you 'cause you're "liberal" and democrats won't like you 'cause you're "republican" so you have to hang out with the geeks and libertarians.)    

St. Thomas Aquinas once wrote, "Lord, grant me chastity.  But not today."  Everyone forgets, that like St. Francis of Assisi, he was a hardcore party animal and hedonist in his youth.  

Taking sexual abstinence as a metaphor for the often more intense passions evoked in public policy debates, you might be called an Aquinas Moderate.  I like to be called a Franciscan Moderate, but I can't get birds and mammals to flock near me.  Anyway, Robert Kennedy is a moderate as well, so if he's one of your heroes, you may not be far off moderate.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2004, 11:29:53 AM »

Actually I'd consider myself a moderate liberal.
I dislike hardline liberals who pander to criminals etc.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2004, 11:35:06 AM »

The Political Compass is not completely accurate...MANY questions are actually irrelevant to the scales they're using.

ALL of the political quizzes are inaccurate and ridiculous.  My advice to everyone is to just stop taking quizzes thinking that they are going to tell you what you are. Too often we see members here take a quiz thinking they are a one thing and come out thinking that suddenly they changed. For example: someone can take about 6 of these quizzes and 5 out of the 6 say "You are a CONSERVATIVE!" but there is that one quiz that says "You are a LIBERAL!" The person that takes the quiz is then so annoyed and so concerned about what the ONE quiz that they forget about the other FIVE. Political quizzes = waste of time.
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2004, 11:44:28 AM »

most of my political heros were liberals--terry sanford, frank porter graham,  robert kennedy.

i actually prefer to look at them as progressives and not liberals.  there is a difference between the two.  john kerry and john edwards are liberals, but there is nothing progressive about them.  there is a shortage of progressives today.

Liberal is not a bad word.  Remember Bush the Elder used the words liberal and democratic (small l, small d) when he described the Founders' ideals.  Most of my heroes are liberal as well.  At least back when liberal didn't mean taking away your rights to keep your income, bear arms, hire and fire whomever you want for whatever reason, etc.  Presumably you don't like to be called a Liberal Republican.  I also detest that label.  (republicans won't like you 'cause you're "liberal" and democrats won't like you 'cause you're "republican" so you have to hang out with the geeks and libertarians.)    

St. Thomas Aquinas once wrote, "Lord, grant me chastity.  But not today."  Everyone forgets, that like St. Francis of Assisi, he was a hardcore party animal and hedonist in his youth.  

Taking sexual abstinence as a metaphor for the often more intense passions evoked in public policy debates, you might be called an Aquinas Moderate.  I like to be called a Franciscan Moderate, but I can't get birds and mammals to flock near me.  Anyway, Robert Kennedy is a moderate as well, so if he's one of your heroes, you may not be far off moderate.

it's interesting that you use st. francis of assisi as an example.  francis is my middle name.  it was robert kennedy's middle name as well.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2004, 01:08:53 PM »

MANY questions are actually irrelevant to the scales they're using.

Yep.  I wonder what the question about keeping busy with more cheerful things means.
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2004, 01:24:49 PM »

MANY questions are actually irrelevant to the scales they're using.

Yep.  I wonder what the question about keeping busy with more cheerful things means.

That struck me as a bit nonsequitur also.  Then I thought about it.  Remember the test that asked whether you trust attorneys or physicians more?  (I put attorneys, which makes me a "democrat" as opposed to a "republican")  I think those things are there to help you separate politics from psychology.  If you're asked about welfare, you already know the party line you're supposed to be towing.  If they ask you something that doesn't come up in public policy discourse, you're more likely to give a gut answer.  Keeping busy with more cheerful things may be optimistic.  The way Teddy Roosevelt Republicans and Imperialists with fascist foreign policies are.  Or it may suggest secrecy (Hallmark of Reagan Republicans), or an unwillingness to think about the cost of agressive militaristic foreign policy.  Or, on the domestic policy front, the kind of folks who are cheerful may respond well to statements like "It's morning again in America."  As opposed to more pessimistic ones like "I see two Americas."
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