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  Did Thomas Mann support genocide against his own countrymen? (search mode)
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Question: Do these remarks indicate genocidal intent?
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Author Topic: Did Thomas Mann support genocide against his own countrymen?  (Read 935 times)
Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 01, 2024, 07:04:16 PM »

Holy False Equivalency batman!
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omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2024, 12:46:22 AM »

How? They’re both essentially saying that the people being bombed should support the people bombing them. The only difference is that Mann is a really from the group being bombed himself
I don't see Mann salivating in a creepily fanatical way about how all Germans should be glad they're being bombed. Did you read the same posts as the rest of us did? I'd like to go back to before this godforsaken war broke everyone's brains, please.
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omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2024, 12:15:56 PM »


I mean yeah, we killed something like 40x the number of civilians in Germany that Israel has in Gaza and with far more indiscriminate tactics (carpet and firebombing entire civilian areas) yet Israel gets accused of genocide when no one says that about the WWII Allies.
The false equivalency was between the rhetoric of Vosem and the rhetoric of Thomas Mann. I'm not one of the people calling it a genocide(though if the netenyahu government tries to drive out the Gazans to make way for settlers, it will definitely count as ethnic cleansing, which is still really bad) Partially due to differences in situation*, and partially due to the fact that the rhetoric itself is so different

*Israel does not need every advantage it can get to win this war, and arguably taking a more cautious approach followed by massive development aid and support in Israel-controlled parts of Gaza a la the Marshall Plan could be the first step in making a very pro-Israel Muslim country in the middle east and undermine a lot of anti-Israel narratives internationally
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