Should the states continue to receive equal representation in the Senate?

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Why should states be represented at all?

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Absolutely not. I am sick of having some low population Senator use my tax dollars to bring home the pork while California gets screwed.

I'm sick of an extreme House of Representatives proposing legislation that infringes on my state's rights. Without the Senate, Colorado, the 2nd freest state, would become a bureaucratic nightmare like California or New York.

And the senate is not capable of this? I think you are the one who is defending the senate due to your loyalties in the current health care debate.

The current health care debate be damned, my vote in the senate is much less relevant than yours. I have less of a voice at the federal level than you do. How the hell is that fair? And please don't get caught up with the issues of today. This system will continue to be unfair regardless of whether it favors conservatives or liberals in the decades to come.

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Absolutely not. I am sick of having some low population Senator use my tax dollars to bring home the pork while California gets screwed.

I'm sick of an extreme House of Representatives proposing legislation that infringes on my state's rights. Without the Senate, Colorado, the 2nd freest state, would become a bureaucratic nightmare like California or New York.

And the senate is not capable of this? I think you are the one who is defending the senate due to your loyalties in the current health care debate.

The current health care debate be damned, my vote in the senate is much less relevant than yours. I have less of a voice at the federal level than you do. How the hell is that fair? And please don't get caught up with the issues of today. This system will continue to be unfair regardless of whether it favors conservatives or liberals in the decades to come.

Here's why I support the Senate in a nutshell: The Senate protects the minority (those who live in small states) from the majority (those who live in large states). As I said, for legal and economic reasons, state boundaries are not arbitrary.

I am all for protecting minority opinions, but why protect the opinions of smaller states above the opinion of other minorities such as racial minorities or gays or any number of other minority groups?

Besides if you believe in majority rule, I would wager that the majority supports the Senate.

Talking about health care? Depends on how you frame the question. The public supports a "public option that competes with private insurance plans" but is ambivalent towards a "government run" insurance program. To me it seems like the country is 50-50 with a good portion of the population not having a clue. I would have to say the public is slightly more favorable towards the democratic point of view than the republican point of view of "no". Most polls back me up (I am aware some don't but question wording is the key here).

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Absolutely not. I am sick of having some low population Senator use my tax dollars to bring home the pork while California gets screwed.

I'm sick of an extreme House of Representatives proposing legislation that infringes on my state's rights. Without the Senate, Colorado, the 2nd freest state, would become a bureaucratic nightmare like California or New York.

And the senate is not capable of this? I think you are the one who is defending the senate due to your loyalties in the current health care debate.

The current health care debate be damned, my vote in the senate is much less relevant than yours. I have less of a voice at the federal level than you do. How the hell is that fair? And please don't get caught up with the issues of today. This system will continue to be unfair regardless of whether it favors conservatives or liberals in the decades to come.

Here's why I support the Senate in a nutshell: The Senate protects the minority (those who live in small states) from the majority (those who live in large states). As I said, for legal and economic reasons, state boundaries are not arbitrary.

I am all for protecting minority opinions, but why protect the opinions of smaller states above the opinion of other minorities such as racial minorities or gays or any number of other minority groups?

Besides if you believe in majority rule, I would wager that the majority supports the Senate.

Talking about health care?

No, I mean a majority support equal representation among the states.

Undoubtedly. I think a compromise may be possible. Instead of 2, maybe all states can get 1 seat in the senate. The rest are then distributed proportionally. Regardless, nothing of the sort will happen since there is no will for it, even in the larger states.

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Absolutely not. I am sick of having some low population Senator use my tax dollars to bring home the pork while California gets screwed.

I'm sick of an extreme House of Representatives proposing legislation that infringes on my state's rights. Without the Senate, Colorado, the 2nd freest state, would become a bureaucratic nightmare like California or New York.

And the senate is not capable of this? I think you are the one who is defending the senate due to your loyalties in the current health care debate.

The current health care debate be damned, my vote in the senate is much less relevant than yours. I have less of a voice at the federal level than you do. How the hell is that fair? And please don't get caught up with the issues of today. This system will continue to be unfair regardless of whether it favors conservatives or liberals in the decades to come.

Here's why I support the Senate in a nutshell: The Senate protects the minority (those who live in small states) from the majority (those who live in large states). As I said, for legal and economic reasons, state boundaries are not arbitrary.

I am all for protecting minority opinions, but why protect the opinions of smaller states above the opinion of other minorities such as racial minorities or gays or any number of other minority groups?

Besides if you believe in majority rule, I would wager that the majority supports the Senate.

Talking about health care?

No, I mean a majority support equal representation among the states.

Undoubtedly. I think a compromise may be possible. Instead of 2, maybe all states can get 1 seat in the senate. The rest are then distributed proportionally. Regardless, nothing of the sort will happen since there is no will for it, even in the larger states.

Exactly. If the majority support equal representation among the states, then to argue otherwise contradicts all the arguments for no equal representation.

How does it contradict the arguments against equal representation of states? I want to be just as equally represented in the senate as you and even if a majority of my state doesn't back me on this, it doesn't make my argument any less valid.

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Yes....the country is in bad enough shape without NY and CA having more than 2 assholes representing "us".....

Remember we would also have more douchebags from TX and PA so that should make you happy.