Gun Control

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Repealing the second would move us a step closer to facism. No Bill of Rights Amendment should ever be repealed. State militias have sadly gone extinct due to the fact that the government feels "threatened" by them. Which is exactly the whole point of it. Because the people do have the right to overthrow the government if they feel it is overstepping its' bounds.

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Are laws against private ownership of nuclear weapons, hand grenades, tanks, etc. unconstutitional?

Considering none of those were around during the time the Second Amendment was made(guns were), those I'll accept as questionable. And the question is just plain silly, how in the hell could an individual use a nuke for personal defense?

Hand grenades were around. If the states were allowed to have militias this would not be a problem. No normal person could afford a tank, nuke, etc. so its' really unrealistic speculation.

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I need to clarify. I'd support second amendment repeal so that the legislature can enact a gun control law strict enough to actually be effective.

The problem is that current laws aren't being enforced. Instead of enforcing them they just keep creating new laws. Thank God we are allowed to carry concealed weapons here.

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1. The law isn't really enforced. Sale is restricted, but most people just go to Tennessee, Alabama, or Florida to buy them. The police really don't care about fireworks as long as you use them only on the 4th and New Years.

Kentucky used to be like this. Yeah, it was illegal, but nobody cared. A few years ago, however, they started throwing people in JAIL.

Bandit,

I agree fireworks being illegal is not only stupid but hypocritical of the whole point of the 4th of July.

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1. The law isn't really enforced. Sale is restricted, but most people just go to Tennessee, Alabama, or Florida to buy them. The police really don't care about fireworks as long as you use them only on the 4th and New Years.

Kentucky used to be like this. Yeah, it was illegal, but nobody cared. A few years ago, however, they started throwing people in JAIL.

I told you how it is in Georgia. Personally I don't care what it's like in Kentucky unless I have to move there. If it is of concern to you lobby to make them legal.

John Dibble. I feel exactly like you on a lot of issues. Am I a libertarian? I have sometimes wondered.

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I think many people are libertarian at heart. You are probably a moderate little 'l' libertarian. I used to be somewhat of a liberal myself, then I found out about the libertarian viewpoint. Personally, I don't like lots of government programs and such at any level, but I think if we allow them they should stay at the state level(if one state wants a program, they should just do it and not use the federal government to force it on other states that don't want them). I actually joined the party just because I want to spread libertarian ideas(actually I was converted by a non-party member). I don't always agree with the party(foreign policy for instance), but I do agree for the most part.

To paraphrase our current presidential candidate, it's not being libertarian that makes people independent and cantankerous, it's being cantankerous and independent that makes them libertarian.

The only point I find myself disagreeing with you guys on is not taking federal funds to run your candidate. I understand your principles behind it but it makes for a losing chance.

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This is what I scored on the www.lp.org website.




Your Personal Self-Government Score is 70%.
Your Economic Self-Government Score is 100%.

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Economic Left/Right: 2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.49

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I have seen an interesting development on this thread, which occurs in the real world on the subject.

M made an absurd statement about firearms not helping the Jews.  I pointed out the case of Sobidor and he stopped posting on this thread.

Al made an absurd statement about "pump action" shotguns being "high velocity" and I repeatedly asked him where he got this silly idea.  He first tried to change the subject, then, like M, stopped posting when I made the point so clear that even a mildly retarded ten year old could understand my point.

NickG also made an absurd statement that handguns 'weren't around' when the Second Amendment was ratified.  I posted a challenge to that statement which he also ignored.

It seems that with M. Al, and NickG,  fthey have a viscerial dislike of firearms, are greatly ignorant about firearms, and believe a number of things about fireamrs which simply are untrue.  

Seems a lot like the real world.  

When Liberals lose a debate they tend to flee in such a way. You should know that by now.

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My stance on Gun Control is the following.

-No Registration
-No Mandatory Locks
-1 Day Waiting period

Also, I have read that the companies are actually firing a round off of each rifle to get its imprint and they actually fingerprint the bullet! Is this true? Did it ever come to light or did it die out? This would be very disturbing.

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If a crook enters my house I do not know what he intends to do to my wife or daugthers. The minute he breaks in is the minute he meets his maker.

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Al and English prove that gun laws on normal citizens don't work. The problem is that criminals are getting the guns. They don't follow the law or care for it. So gun laws only really hurt good upstanding citizens.