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DrScholl
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« on: May 03, 2024, 01:50:54 PM »

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?
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DrScholl
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2024, 02:03:43 PM »

You could make this exact same thread asking the same exact question about Trump. Why anything?

Due to fact that we don't like Trump and his massive tax cuts to the rich

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

HW had a far more credible primary challenge and he didn't have half the issues Biden has

Regardless as I predicted everyone just keeps talking about Trump because they cannot defend Biden

Biden didn't face a primary challenge because he has been an effective President. I clearly defended Biden by saying he is an effective President. It's far more worth asking why Republicans nominated Trump with his liabilities, but they did so because he is racist and that is the sort of policy they want.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2024, 10:48:24 AM »

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

He did not get more done than George W Bush in amount done. In W's first term he got his tax cuts passed, his education bill passed, medicare part d passed, the farm bill passed, partial birth abortion ban passed, and his entire foreign policy/national security agenda passed as well.

Congress pretty much was more deferential to W than they have been to any president in decades and W 100% got more things done than Biden has in his first term.
Most of that was a failure. No Child Left Behind was a mess and let's not even get started on the foreign policy being horrendous. Those tax cuts are still a major problem in terms of revenue. There is a difference between getting good things done and getting bad things done.

1. He accomplished hell of a lot for having a bare minimum trifecta in his firs two years, and Republican House in his second two.
2. The Democratic Party is stronger under him than it was under Clinton and Obama while they were President.
3. He got us out of the pandemic in a fashion that we are still seeing the benefits of today, macroeconomically.
4. He is an honest, decent, genuine person who is consistently underrated.
5. He restored our reputation in the world.

You must be kidding. All of those are laughable. Restored reputation in world? What are you smoking.

I wouldn't accuse anyone of smoking anything when you support a person who can't even stay awake.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2024, 05:23:14 PM »

I mean, voters don’t really have a choice but to be loyal or open the door back up to Trump.

But party powerbrokers absolutely failed by refusing to talk him out of seeking re-election. Biden is being popularly ridiculed in ways we haven’t seen since Bush 43, yet Democrats don’t seem to see it or care.

Who exactly are these party power brokers who could talk Biden out of running?

As to the original question I'm loyal to Biden because I think he's done a good job and is the incumbent. From a political perspective a serious primary challenge would have left the party split and Biden still the likely nominee. And if Biden had decided not to run we would have had a contentious primary that could still be going on. Plus who exactly is this can't miss replacement candidate the Democrats could have run?

Too many random terminally online people think there is this huge power apparatus that controls who runs in the Democratic Party and that's just not true. If you ask who these "power brokers" are you won't get a name. It's all based on conspiracy.
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