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« on: October 04, 2010, 06:38:23 PM »

Are you ging to continue this? This is really interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2010, 08:28:04 PM »

Possible running mates for Forbes:

Pat Buchanan
Ross Perot
Barry Goldwater Jr
Ron Paul

(Just a shot in the dark with Goldwater and Paul)
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2010, 02:52:10 PM »

The only thing I see that might be a bit off, is that Forbes chooses a fellow businessman with no actual political experience. I can see him choosing a Cosnervative Congressman or something like that. Anyway, good timeline.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 11:22:39 AM »

The only thing I see that might be a bit off, is that Forbes chooses a fellow businessman with no actual political experience. I can see him choosing a Cosnervative Congressman or something like that. Anyway, good timeline.

Thanks for input Cathcon.

Tommy, do my eyes deceive me when I see that you've changed Forbes' VP to Ron Paul?
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 01:43:39 PM »

The final debate will take place on October 10th, 1996.

Steve Forbes hopes to "wow" some more voters in the 2nd debate so he can get around 10-15%.  Powell tells voters "Conservatives vote for me rather than Steve Forbes."

I don't want to nitpick, but does Powell have a consistent theme in the campaign, because earlier he talked about how Forbes was too Conservative for America, and now he's telling Conservatives to vote for him. Personally, I would work to shed doubt on Steve Forbes' political experience, instead of his ideology. Great timeline!
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2010, 05:39:42 PM »

Bumpity-Bumpity-Ba-Dump-Ba-Dump-Bump.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 10:02:02 PM »

BREAKING NEWS: President Powell wins re-election.


PV%: Powell 45%, Brown 43%, Forbes 12%

Just the result I wanted. Smiley Powell wins re-election, but Forbes takes a state.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 03:01:09 PM »

YAAAA! Powell for three terms. While I'm posting, I have acouple questions:
1) It seems that the parties have no major changes, however, the Republican Presidentis seem to be more moderate (Powell and Bush, not Reagan and Goldwater). It seems that people that were major Cosnervative icons in their time ended up on the Vice-Presidential tickets.
2) Can you give a list of the Presidents, not now maybe, but at the end of the timeline (2008, 2010)?
3) If you can't make a list of the Presidents, can you tell me if there was a President Henry Ford in this timeline? I know there was one timeline where he was President, but I'm not sure which (This TL, the Wet House, or Fluke of the Gods)
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 06:38:35 PM »

YAAAA! Powell for three terms. While I'm posting, I have acouple questions:
1) It seems that the parties have no major changes, however, the Republican Presidentis seem to be more moderate (Powell and Bush, not Reagan and Goldwater). It seems that people that were major Cosnervative icons in their time ended up on the Vice-Presidential tickets.
2) Can you give a list of the Presidents, not now maybe, but at the end of the timeline (2008, 2010)?
3) If you can't make a list of the Presidents, can you tell me if there was a President Henry Ford in this timeline? I know there was one timeline where he was President, but I'm not sure which (This TL, the Wet House, or Fluke of the Gods)

I can make a TL of all the President's.  There was a President Henry Ford.  I can get a more conservative Republican in office.  Maybe George W. Bush in 2004?

Only if he's an actual Conservative, not the faux-Con we got in real life. I'd rather have an actual moderate than a fake Conservative. Good work, though, this is by far the longest Timeline I've ever read.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2010, 10:50:59 PM »

Why is Powell facing not one, but two challengers during a good economy and peace-time, with one of the challengers being a fellow moderate?

By the way, scratch the idea of W. at oen point being President. Go with Jeb instead if you're gonna have a Conservative.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2010, 09:10:04 AM »

Bump.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 03:38:00 PM »


Comment:
Also, when I was going through this to try to compile some lists on it, I noticed that ittl, Presidents who seek third terms are not often  rewarded (Stevenson, FDR).

Question:
Also, in modern day, how much of icons are Harold Stassen, Robert Lincoln, and George Bush, etc. to modern Republicans? Do Dems say "we need a good Humphrey Democrat to win again" like Republicans with Reagan in RL?
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 03:56:04 PM »

Thanks. What are the Bush brothers doing, and what has Barry Goldwater Jr. (in RL a California Congressman 1969-1983), who in this is the son of a Vice-President done?
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 11:28:35 PM »

Go Forbes! Just for the heck of it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2011, 06:01:36 PM »

Took quite a while, but that should be about right. Tongue

Bryan defeats McKinley, 1896!

List of Presidents and Vice-Presidents
25. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) March 4th, 1897-March 4th, 1901
          24. Arthur Sewall (D-ME) March 4th, 1897-March 4th, 1901

26. Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL) March 4th, 1901-March 4th, 1913
          25. William McKinley (R-OH) March 3rd, 1901-April 3rd, 1902
          26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) March 3rd, 1905-March 3rd, 1913
27. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) March 3rd, 1913-March 3rd, 1917
          27. Robert La Follette (R-WI) March 3rd, 1913-June 23rd, 1915

28. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) March 4th, 1917-March 4th, 1921
          29. Beauchamp “Champ” Clark (D-MO) March 4th, 1917-March 4th, 1921

29. Henry Ford (R-MI) March 4th, 1921-March 4th, 1929
30. Herbert C Hoover (R-CA) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933
          30. Charles Evan Hughes (R-NY) March 4th, 1921-March 4th, 1933

31. Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941
          31. James M Cox (D-OH) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941

32. Wendell Willkie (R-NY) January 20th, 1941-October 8th, 1944
          32. Alfred Landon (R-KS) January 20th, 1941-October 8th, 1944
33. Alfred Landon (R-KS) October 8th, 1944-January 20th, 1953
          33. Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI) January 20th, 1945-April 18th, 1951
          34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) February 20th, 1952-January 20th, 1953

34. Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
          35. Averill Harriman (D-NY) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961

35. Harold Stassen (R-MN) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1969
          36. Richard M Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
          37. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969

36. Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977
          38. Ralph Yarborough (D-TX) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977
37. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
          39. George Tunney (D-CA) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981

38. George HW Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
          40. Ronald W Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

39. Walter Mondale (D-MN) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
          41. Gary hart (D-CO) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993

40. Colin L Powell (R-NY) January 20th, 1993-?
          42. James Baker (R-TX) January 20th, 1993-?


List of Losing Tickets
1896: Governor William McKinley (R-OH)/Former State Senate President Garret Hobart (R-NJ)
1900: President William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Senator Adlai Stevenson I (D-IL)
1904: Former President Grover Cleveland (D-NY)/Senator Ben Tillman (D-SC)
1908: Former President William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Senator Alton Brooks Parker (D-NY)
1912: Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas R Marshall (D-IN)
1916: President Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Senator Charles Fairbanks (R-IN), Former Vice-President Robert La Follette (P-WI)/Senator William E Borah (P-ID)
1920: Senate James M Cox (D-OH)/Vice-President Beauchamp “Champ” Clark (D-MO); Former Vice-President Robert La Follette (P-WI)/Congressman George Norris (P-NE)
1924: Senator James M Cox (D-OH)/Governor Alfred E Smith (D-NY); Former Vice-President Robert La Follette (P-WI)/Senator Hiram Johnson (P-CA)
1928: Governor Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/Congressman John W Davis (D-WV); Senator George Norris (D-NE)/Senator Burton K Wheeler (D-MT)
1932: Senator Joseph France (R-MD)/Senate Charles Curtis (R-KS); Senator George Norris (P-NE)/Senator William E Borah (P-ID)
1936: Former President Henry Ford (R-MI)/Senator Joseph France (R-MD); Senator Hiram Johnson (P-CA)/Senator Burton K Wheeler (P-MT)
1940: President Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/Vice-President James M Cox (D-OH); Senator Burton K Wheeler (P-MT)/Congressman Henry A Wallace (P-IA)
1944: Former President Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/Senator Alben Barkley (D-KY); Senator Burton K Wheeler (P-MT)/Congressman Henry A Wallace (P-IA)
1948: Senator Harry S Truman (D-MO)/Former Post-Master General James Farley (D-NY); Senator Burton K Wheeler (P-MT)/Senator Glen Taylor (P-ID); Governor J Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Senator Richard Russell Jr. (SR-GA)
1952: Senator Robert Taft (R-OH)/Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN); Senator Glen Taylor (P-ID)/Congressman Franklin Frazier (P-MD)
1956: Former Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Former Vice-President Thomas Dewey (R-NY); Senator Glen Taylor (P-ID)/Senator Philip La Follette (P-WI)
1960: President Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)/Vice-President Averill Harriman (D-NY); Senator Glen Taylor (P-ID)/Senator George McGovern (P-SD)
1964: Former President Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)/Senator George Smathers (D-FL)
1968: Former Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Vice-President Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
1972: Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Senator Howard H Baker Jr. (R-TN); Former Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Author Thomas J Anderson (I-TN)
1976: Former Governor Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweicker (R-PA)
1980: President Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President George V Tunney (D-CA); Congressman John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Governor Patrick Lucey (I-WI)
1984: Governor Edmund G “Jerry” Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Senator John Glenn (D-OH)
1988: Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1992: President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)
1996: Former Governor Edmund G “Jerry” Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Governor Evan Bayh (D-IN); Publisher Steve Forbes (I-NJ)/Former Congressman Ron Paul (I-TX)
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2011, 12:27:11 AM »

Welcome. Smiley Im wondering what political offices Brown held. Was he basically unemployed between 1983 & 1996, or did he return to the governorship at some point?
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2013, 10:16:29 PM »

Looking forward to it! Smiley
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