South Korean autogenocide tracking(fertility rate crash) Post the rest of East Asia as well.

[lfromnj]

https://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231208000534

The nation’s total fertility rate, referring to the average number of children a woman is expected to have, also hit a record low in 2023. During the first three quarters of this year, the rate shrank to 0.7, marking a decrease of 0.1 from the same period last year.

Given the trend of declining birth rates toward the end of the year, this year’s total fertility rate is expected to further decrease to 0.6.

At 0.7 each generation is roughly one third the size. . So if there are 100 kids in one generation. There will be 33 in the next and then 11 and finally 4 . This is basically an autogenocide .

[super6646]

I've never heard this term in my life.

Anyways, we all know South Korea is demographically screwed.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     It's hard to imagine a nation's birth rates cratering this hard. South Korea will probably see a societal collapse by 2100, as the working-age population will be insufficient to support the needs of the elderly.

[gerritcole]

the eventual collapse of the north will provide enough cheap young labor to push this crisis off for sometime

[Senator Incitatus]

I've never heard this term in my life.

Anyways, we all know South Korea is demographically screwed.

It used to be called “race suicide.”

[MaxQue]

     It's hard to imagine a nation's birth rates cratering this hard. South Korea will probably see a societal collapse by 2100, as the working-age population will be insufficient to support the needs of the elderly.

That's the end result of hardcore capitalism. The costs (economical, societal and opportinuity) of having kids is just way too high.

[lfromnj]

    It's hard to imagine a nation's birth rates cratering this hard. South Korea will probably see a societal collapse by 2100, as the working-age population will be insufficient to support the needs of the elderly.

That's the end result of hardcore capitalism. The costs (economical, societal and opportinuity) of having kids is just way too high.

The gini index of South korea is one of the lowest in the world. Its East Asian culture combined with gender war where young women hate society because the elders are sexist but young males are probably hurt more because of the draft. Korea should probably make a universal draft with exemptions for married couples with kids.

[jojoju1998]

It's interesting to point out that among Korean Americans, the Fertility rate is higher.

https://paa2019.populationassociation.org/uploads/191215#:~:text=The%20first%2Dgeneration%20Korean%20immigrants%20in%20the%20U.S.%20have%20sustained,higher%20by%200.4%20on%20average.

[Kamala's side hoe]

    It's hard to imagine a nation's birth rates cratering this hard. South Korea will probably see a societal collapse by 2100, as the working-age population will be insufficient to support the needs of the elderly.

That's the end result of hardcore capitalism. The costs (economical, societal and opportinuity) of having kids is just way too high.

The gini index of South korea is one of the lowest in the world. Its East Asian culture combined with gender war where young women hate society because the elders are sexist but young males are probably hurt more because of the draft. Korea should probably make a universal draft with exemptions for married couples with kids.

People generally don't think of the GINI index as referring to wealth inequality


South Korea does seem to have a slightly lower income gini index than most of the rest of Asia through, and is on-par with non-Scandinavia Europe.

[lfromnj]

Also on note because I changed the thread title. I think China's TFR is an issue as well but I think right now its in an echo similar to Russia and WW2 with regards to the Great Leap Forward.

[Mopsus]

the eventual collapse of the north will provide enough cheap young labor to push this crisis off for sometime

With a population imbalance like this, the North should be able to overrun and conquer the South before the end of the century.

[gerritcole]

the eventual collapse of the north will provide enough cheap young labor to push this crisis off for sometime

With a population imbalance like this, the North should be able to overrun and conquer the South before the end of the century.

what good is a DMZ if there is no one left to man it haha

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

For some reason, this site thinks the fertility rate will increase.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/south-korea-population/

[CumbrianLefty]

Well, you might think it would bottom out at *some* point wouldn't you.

[Kamala's side hoe]

@pomme._.fatale
4 months ago
as a born and raised Korean 🇰🇷, 'having the worst mix of Confucianism and capitalism' is the most on-point statement of Korean 🇰🇷 society

Relevant PG&D post

     I sometimes hear people express that it is too expensive to have children, but the third world seems to refute that notion. In reality a lot of what Americans consider expenses of childbearing are unreasonable (e.g. having a separate bedroom for each child).

This - I think in America the cost of having children has gone up in large part because our standards for raising kids as a culture have increased. It used to be 4 kids might share a bedroom and help their parents with work, but now the convention is no more than 2 to a bedroom (ideally everyone gets their one), you need childcare, cycling through tons of fun toys as they age, ect.

That kids are expected to be "independent" at such a young age is also why the developed world is so neurotic/mentally ill.  In real countries, like India or Nigeria, you'll constantly be sh[inks]t-tested by "the clan" your whole life, with nowhere to run or hide LMAO

But even in highly clan-centric cultures, birth rates have collapsed. In East Asia, for instance, birth rates are on par with or below the West. India is below replacement level now too. It’s really a matter of urbanization and it being impractical raise kids in an urban area. In contrast, kids are a necessity in rural places with subsistence agriculture. Having extra labor to work your land could make the difference between your family starving or surviving a bad harvest year.