National pride

[dialectical fetishist]

Strongly disagree.

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

Right or wrong, I'd always support my country (or something like that, don't remember the exact wording).

Wasn't it: "Right or wrong this is my country"?

Being proud of something you're part of when you didn't choose it isn't necessary foolish, because the fact that you didn't choose it works in both senses, you can't have credit for that but you can't have blame too. You're part of something, you like this thing, then you can be proud of it.

The more foolish would certainly be to be proud of you because you're part of something while you can't have credit for being part of it.

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

Though, 'pride' refers more to something you can get credit for, you can be pride of something you did, even if the only fact to be in a community like a state makes that ultimately you participate to its life, for me the word 'proud' would be a bit too strong considering the fact I've done nothing to be part of it, I personally would be more comfortable with the word 'glad', which is always how I formulate it.

The debate for someone who chose and did something to be part of a state is different I tend to think.

[N.i.K.]

Disagree, but not strongly disagree. I am personally proud of my country, and the study of our culture and history. However, patriotism morphs into nationalism later on, and can corrupt the smartest minds.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

I strongly agree.

National pride (not to confuse with patriotism) is, as Schopenhauer said, the most pathetic thing.

[Hashemite]

There's nothing wrong with having a personal sense of patriotism in your country, or at the very least a recognition of your country. Especially when you're born in a country like America or Canada, where you probably have a good life and good living conditions, I think it's necessary to recognize your country's qualities and values. I'm glad to be born in Canada, since I'm less likely to be a child starving to death in a desert being born here than say, Niger.

Further, it's not foolish to be proud of your country. You were born into a culture, a language, a religion, whatever, you can't really deny that.

However, one must be careful that patriotism doesn't morph into any type of nationalism, xenophobia or a close-minded 'country first' view of society.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

There's nothing wrong with having a personal sense of patriotism in your country, or at the very least a recognition of your country. Especially when you're born in a country like America or Canada, where you probably have a good life and good living conditions, I think it's necessary to recognize your country's qualities and values. I'm glad to be born in Canada, since I'm less likely to be a child starving to death in a desert being born here than say, Niger.

Further, it's not foolish to be proud of your country. You were born into a culture, a language, a religion, whatever, you can't really deny that.

However, one must be careful that patriotism doesn't morph into any type of nationalism, xenophobia or a close-minded 'country first' view of society.

See, there's nothing wrong with patriotism or love for the country. The stupid thing is "OMG I'M SO PROUD I LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY". You can be proud of your own accomplishments.

[Citizen James]

Mildly disagree.  I think this quote sums it up wonderfully:

The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border?
~Pablo Casals

[Californian Tony]

I wanted to vote SA and by error I voted SD...

[I left.]

There's nothing wrong with having a personal sense of patriotism in your country, or at the very least a recognition of your country. Especially when you're born in a country like America or Canada, where you probably have a good life and good living conditions, I think it's necessary to recognize your country's qualities and values. I'm glad to be born in Canada, since I'm less likely to be a child starving to death in a desert being born here than say, Niger.

Further, it's not foolish to be proud of your country. You were born into a culture, a language, a religion, whatever, you can't really deny that.

However, one must be careful that patriotism doesn't morph into any type of nationalism, xenophobia or a close-minded 'country first' view of society.

[Grumps]

Strongly Disagree

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

I wanted to vote SA and by error I voted SD...

Acte manqué!!

Dunno how it would be said in English, literal translation being 'missed act', it's when you do something you consciously disagree with, but unconsciously you could agree with.

The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border?
~Pablo Casals

Conflict between religion and politics...? So post counter-culture anyways, so world culture. I don't say it pejoratively, just saying.

[Californian Tony]

I wanted to vote SA and by error I voted SD...

Acte manqué!!

Dunno how it would be said in English, literal translation being 'missed act', it's when you do something you consciously disagree with, but unconsciously you could agree with.

Maybe... I'm betrayed by my subconscious.

[Magic 8-Ball]

There's nothing wrong with having a personal sense of patriotism in your country, or at the very least a recognition of your country. Especially when you're born in a country like America or Canada, where you probably have a good life and good living conditions, I think it's necessary to recognize your country's qualities and values. I'm glad to be born in Canada, since I'm less likely to be a child starving to death in a desert being born here than say, Niger.

Further, it's not foolish to be proud of your country. You were born into a culture, a language, a religion, whatever, you can't really deny that.

However, one must be careful that patriotism doesn't morph into any type of nationalism, xenophobia or a close-minded 'country first' view of society.