Next Timeline

[hcallega]

Since I wrapped up my WWW tl, now I want YOU (YES YOU) to pick my next TL. Any Ideas?

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

one where the Dixiecrat party has a stronger performance in 48, along with Dewey doing a little better to bring the election to the House. (i could do a map of that if you wish)

[HappyWarrior]

I'd say a southern civil war victory.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

FDR doesnąt run for reelection, leaving a field wide open

[Dancing with Myself]

Neither Bush nor Gore runs in 2000, who will win?

[President Mitt]

1968 goes to the House, but something interesting happens instead of HHH winning. Instead, make Nixon Pres. Curtis LeMay VP, and have Nixon get shot by Bremer.

[Psychic Octopus]

Giovanni's choice would be interesting; But I would say a timeline in which D Day Fails, leaving the western powers at a serious impass.

[George W. Hobbes]

9/11 plot is broken up, when Al Qaida decides to go for the ten plate, bicoastal attack option and one of the cells is arrested by the FBI.

[hcallega]

Wow, no clarity at all! I like it!

Well obviously I'm going to let this run for a while, but the biggest problem with some of these ideas follows:
1-Recent TLs are very short and thus have minimum butterflies.
2-Some PODs are really neat, but once you get past a certain point the TL looses it's point almot. Very few writers can pull this off (Historico, Kaljwet), and I probably can't.
3-Of course another issue is that my area of knowledge is strongest between post-WWII and now. I made a list of potential CSA presidents, but even then I had trouble in the begining.

Right now though, here are my personal ideas. Give me any feedback and keep giving me ideas.

1-South Wins Civil War BUT I don't start in 1865. Rather I profile a certain time. This could become a series, where I profile say, an election in the 1960s and then one in the 1980s

2-TR is the Republican in 1912. This is pretty sefl-explanitory, but the goal would be to have the Dems stay as conservative and the GOP as progressive, with perhaps a stronger Socialist party.
3-JFK Lives. I know I know, boring right. But I’ve always wanted to do it. There’s a strong possibility that I take some time off from the site (maybe in the spring or summer) and crank out a legit short novel about Kennedy’s second term, and then going into the future. Of course I would then publish weekly enstallments.

So there it is folks. Right now I’m leaning towards TR in ’12 as the GOP’s Bull Elephant.

[Dancing with Myself]

The TR time line would be pretty sweet.

[Psychic Octopus]

The TR time line would be pretty sweet.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

The TR time line would be pretty sweet.

Either it or the JFK TL would be interesting; those are, of course, my babies.

[President Mitt]

How about Nixon winning in 1960? It's within the last 50 years, so no major butterflies you'd have to concern yourself over, and it's an idea that to my knowledge, hasn't been done.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

How about Nixon winning in 1960? It's within the last 50 years, so no major butterflies you'd have to concern yourself over, and it's an idea that to my knowledge, hasn't been done.

Actually it has, although I'm quite sure if NiK stopped it prior to the 1968 election cycle though. With that in mind, it'd be great in my opinion to see a timeline based on a point of divergence rarely seen on the board. Not to mention its in your area of expertise, too. Thus, I'm in agreement with Giovanni.

[President Mitt]

Wow, no clarity at all! I like it!

Well obviously I'm going to let this run for a while, but the biggest problem with some of these ideas follows:
1-Recent TLs are very short and thus have minimum butterflies.
2-Some PODs are really neat, but once you get past a certain point the TL looses it's point almot. Very few writers can pull this off (Historico, Kaljwet), and I probably can't.
3-Of course another issue is that my area of knowledge is strongest between post-WWII and now. I made a list of potential CSA presidents, but even then I had trouble in the begining.

Right now though, here are my personal ideas. Give me any feedback and keep giving me ideas.

1-South Wins Civil War BUT I don't start in 1865. Rather I profile a certain time. This could become a series, where I profile say, an election in the 1960s and then one in the 1980s

2-TR is the Republican in 1912. This is pretty sefl-explanitory, but the goal would be to have the Dems stay as conservative and the GOP as progressive, with perhaps a stronger Socialist party.
3-JFK Lives. I know I know, boring right. But I’ve always wanted to do it. There’s a strong possibility that I take some time off from the site (maybe in the spring or summer) and crank out a legit short novel about Kennedy’s second term, and then going into the future. Of course I would then publish weekly enstallments.

So there it is folks. Right now I’m leaning towards TR in ’12 as the GOP’s Bull Elephant.

I stand by my suggestions, but any of these would be interesting.

[izixs]

Wow, no clarity at all! I like it!

Well obviously I'm going to let this run for a while, but the biggest problem with some of these ideas follows:
1-Recent TLs are very short and thus have minimum butterflies.
2-Some PODs are really neat, but once you get past a certain point the TL looses it's point almot. Very few writers can pull this off (Historico, Kaljwet), and I probably can't.

The combo of these is why I went for a future history of sorts for my TL. Means I don't have to worry as much about being called out for missing the mark on some historical figure.

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I kind of like this idea. A good time line need not spell out every step of evolution. As long as the changes between time A and B are plausible the mind can fill in the details later and the author need not write it up entirely. And for the more unbelievable details needed to get to B, a brief run down can help sort those out. That said, I don't recall seeing this put to good use for a long timeline for anything other than a future time line (mine included), so it might be a good way to keep your timeline fresh and original.

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Always be careful about using conservative/progressive in a pre-1960s era, but other than that, has potential. But other than a stronger socialist party, what sort of details might make this one more interesting?

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This might work. I don't read many Kennedy lives timelines but if you focus on a plausible second term that might be a good read.

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I guess in short I see some strengths in the first and third. And am a little uncertain about the second option.

[hcallega]

as far as Nixon in '60, my only issue is that I hate Nixon and love Kennedy, and therefore I feel that I would lack the inspiration to make it happen. As far as the differences with TR in 1912, there are some very epic butterflies that are possible, especially involving international politics which would be very fun indeed!

So right now I'm siding with TR, but I really want to be surrpised. Actualy I would perfer something out of my expertise now that I think about it, simply because I've done so many (RFK, Henry Wallace, JPK, WWW, Cuomo). So yeah, I'll probably get started on it this weekend as it's winter break. Of course I might be sick, so there may be an earlier begining.

[Historia Crux]

You can do one I was looking into. It's about the "Fall of Thomas Jefferson" in 1781 after his resignation from the Virginia Governorship, where in OTL he had commendation by the Virginian legislature and there special panel to look into Jefferson's term as Governor. In TTL, the opposite occurs and Jefferson is bombasted and berated. Jefferson would be forever embittered and would be "damaged goods", never again running for office and pining away in his home until his death from liver failure years later.

This would open up a totally different events, some would be completely different diplomacy as no Jefferson for the position of Ambassador to France. Another would be without Jefferson championing of an "American Dollar" the pound is adopted instead. Without Jefferson in the Washington cabinet, Hamilton could be more freely to do so as he wished and anything close to the Democrat-Republicans may have taken longer to form, leading to a more unchecked Federalist Party, allowing some possibilities of authoritarian shades to leak into American politics.

[sentinel]

Well, idk if you want something recent, but Obama doesn't run, waits til 2012 or 2016...something like that? Maybe he takes Hillary's VP Spot? Play around a tad.

[Historico]

Hmm...It seems to me HC, that your bests TL's come out of something not only when you have ample time to write like this summer with the Wallace TL. I think it be cool, if you tackled one of the "seemingly" impossible Electoral Wins and turn them into a victory TL. I think a LaFollette wins in '24 is a cool idea or maybe Hughes wins in 1916 something along those lines. But that's the fun thing about researching timelines like this yourpracticing learning new stuff everyday.

[hcallega]

Hmm...It seems to me HC, that your bests TL's come out of something not only when you have ample time to write like this summer with the Wallace TL. I think it be cool, if you tackled one of the "seemingly" impossible Electoral Wins and turn them into a victory TL. I think a LaFollette wins in '24 is a cool idea or maybe Hughes wins in 1916 something along those lines. But that's the fun thing about researching timelines like this yourpracticing learning new stuff everyday.

I agree with your first point, and that's why I'm planning on doing most of this TL over break. I'll prolly start 2day. I'm going to go with TR in 1912, simply because it gives me a lot of flexibility and a lot of interesting elections to do.