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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2010, 06:49:18 pm »
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Then maybe you better help him to stay on the right path so you aren't short a running mate come Feb. Wink

So you two were serious about the run? Cool (I still vote BC FTR Tongue)

And seriously now, I don't expect any problems with Sewer Socialist. He really want to participate in Atlasia.
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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2010, 06:52:47 pm »
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This is rather inappropriate in this setting.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2010, 06:59:29 pm »
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I have to admitt I have rather mixed feelings regarding new policy.

Truth, there are unreformable trolls which should be removed or at least disciplined.

What worries me is a potential field for abuse, as moderators can put virtually anyone on the list without any consequences or regard to actual guilt or lack of thereof.

So please, use this WISE.
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2010, 07:09:10 pm »
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Yeah, mixed as well. Why I like how the Mods are being proactive, there are certainly other individuals who do similar things. I think that this post was too strong, and should have been done in private, not in public.
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2010, 07:13:01 pm »
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It is how it is. It's a good system really, and the problems here everyone continues to whine about here are cause by precisely the same people we had problems with in the past. They continue to troll, and spam, and sew their complaints in others to give the illusion of widespread resistance.

However, whining about these changes without end probably isn't going to help anyone's cause. If those in question thought continuing to act like even worse trolls and continuing the spamming and intentionally-provocative-for-the-sake-of-being-provocative posts would get the mods to go easy on you, then.. yeah..

People should act mature about all this. Even I could be on board with some criticism of the new system if people actually acted like they were above 15 years old.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2010, 07:44:25 pm »
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Banning people from Atlasia by moderative fiat is a good system?
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2010, 07:48:25 pm »
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People should act mature about all this. Even I could be on board with some criticism of the new system if people actually acted like they were above 15 years old.

I'm 14, Tongue
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2010, 07:49:45 pm »
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I'm 14, Tongue

Seriously?  I thought you were older than that.
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2010, 07:54:52 pm »
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I don't know how long a system like this will suffice until the trolls overrun it with their spam/abuse of the reporting system, etc. I wish Mr. Leip would come around enough to get rid of these people, but perhaps he's afraid that banning them will only make it worse, if we believe the threats Hamilton likes to spew about how it will get worse if he's banned. I don't know. It's unfortunate that these kids, with way too much time on their hands, are trying to take down the forum. It used to be a great place for discussion.
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2010, 07:58:07 pm »
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I'm 14, Tongue

Seriously?  I thought you were older than that.

No way. Pretty big surprise, huh?

I used to claim I was older back when I first started, as I thought I would be discriminated against. But, No, I am 14.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2010, 08:09:58 pm »
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I'm 14, Tongue

Seriously?  I thought you were older than that.

NiK and Barnes are an examples people in such age can actually act mature.
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2010, 08:17:50 pm »
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I'm 14, Tongue

Seriously?  I thought you were older than that.

NiK and Barnes are an examples people in such age can actually act mature.

Thanks. Smiley People always say I'm mature for my age.
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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2010, 08:28:16 pm »
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I'm 14, Tongue

Seriously?  I thought you were older than that.

NiK and Barnes are an examples people in such age can actually act mature.

Thanks. Smiley People always say I'm mature for my age.

Yeah, thanks, Kalwejt. When were you born, Barnes? July 24th, 1995 for me.
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2010, 08:28:54 pm »
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I'm 14, Tongue

Seriously?  I thought you were older than that.

NiK and Barnes are an examples people in such age can actually act mature.

Thanks. Smiley People always say I'm mature for my age.

Yeah, thanks, Kalwejt. When were you born, Barnes? July 24th, 1995 for me.

June 8th, 1995.
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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2010, 08:29:04 pm »
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Then maybe you better help him to stay on the right path so you aren't short a running mate come Feb. Wink

So you two were serious about the run? Cool (I still vote BC FTR Tongue)

And seriously now, I don't expect any problems with Sewer Socialist. He really want to participate in Atlasia.

Believe it or not, the AASP does have a serious agenda and that is the encouragement of governing local cooperatives. Pretty much we are a libertarian socialist party.
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2010, 08:29:17 pm »

Please take it to PM's please.
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2010, 08:32:05 pm »
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Please take it to PM's please.

I'm sorry.

Thanks, though, for the rules. Atlasia has been so much more calm. Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2010, 08:03:20 am »
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I don't know how long a system like this will suffice until the trolls overrun it with their spam/abuse of the reporting system, etc. I wish Mr. Leip would come around enough to get rid of these people, but perhaps he's afraid that banning them will only make it worse, if we believe the threats Hamilton likes to spew about how it will get worse if he's banned. I don't know. It's unfortunate that these kids, with way too much time on their hands, are trying to take down the forum. It used to be a great place for discussion.

I agree with that. Banning Hamilton will be a terrible mistake, because he will easily come back on the forum, and learning from his mistakes, he will manage to screw the forum without getting banned in time.
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2010, 09:24:30 am »

I don't know how long a system like this will suffice until the trolls overrun it with their spam/abuse of the reporting system, etc. I wish Mr. Leip would come around enough to get rid of these people, but perhaps he's afraid that banning them will only make it worse, if we believe the threats Hamilton likes to spew about how it will get worse if he's banned. I don't know. It's unfortunate that these kids, with way too much time on their hands, are trying to take down the forum. It used to be a great place for discussion.

I agree with that. Banning Hamilton will be a terrible mistake, because he will easily come back on the forum, and learning from his mistakes, he will manage to screw the forum without getting banned in time.

He won't learn. And besides, it won't matter. Once it'd discovered it is Hamilton he'll be banned for circumvening the ban, just like Ogis every time, no matter how he acts.
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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2010, 09:36:47 am »
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Hamilton is the only poster right now on entire Atlas who really deserved a man. He will never learn, he will never change despite so many chances he was given/.
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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2010, 10:01:52 am »
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I don't know how long a system like this will suffice until the trolls overrun it with their spam/abuse of the reporting system, etc. I wish Mr. Leip would come around enough to get rid of these people, but perhaps he's afraid that banning them will only make it worse, if we believe the threats Hamilton likes to spew about how it will get worse if he's banned. I don't know. It's unfortunate that these kids, with way too much time on their hands, are trying to take down the forum. It used to be a great place for discussion.

I agree with that. Banning Hamilton will be a terrible mistake, because he will easily come back on the forum, and learning from his mistakes, he will manage to screw the forum without getting banned in time.

He won't learn. And besides, it won't matter. Once it'd discovered it is Hamilton he'll be banned for circumvening the ban, just like Ogis every time, no matter how he acts.

Did someone only imagine that Swing Voter could be Hamilton before Nik revealed it ?
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« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2010, 10:11:33 am »
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I don't know how long a system like this will suffice until the trolls overrun it with their spam/abuse of the reporting system, etc. I wish Mr. Leip would come around enough to get rid of these people, but perhaps he's afraid that banning them will only make it worse, if we believe the threats Hamilton likes to spew about how it will get worse if he's banned. I don't know. It's unfortunate that these kids, with way too much time on their hands, are trying to take down the forum. It used to be a great place for discussion.

I agree with that. Banning Hamilton will be a terrible mistake, because he will easily come back on the forum, and learning from his mistakes, he will manage to screw the forum without getting banned in time.

He won't learn. And besides, it won't matter. Once it'd discovered it is Hamilton he'll be banned for circumvening the ban, just like Ogis every time, no matter how he acts.

Did someone only imagine that Swing Voter could be Hamilton before Nik revealed it ?

Well, but Hamilton main account should be banned regardless. If he go back under new and start to act the same way, than ban it too.

Sorry, but we can't surrended before statement like: "trolls will be back anyway".

Hamilton deserves to be banned for massive trolling, spamming spree, despite all chances he was given. I';m not list or new policy fan, but he's a real exception.
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« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2010, 10:42:30 am »
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I don't know how long a system like this will suffice until the trolls overrun it with their spam/abuse of the reporting system, etc. I wish Mr. Leip would come around enough to get rid of these people, but perhaps he's afraid that banning them will only make it worse, if we believe the threats Hamilton likes to spew about how it will get worse if he's banned. I don't know. It's unfortunate that these kids, with way too much time on their hands, are trying to take down the forum. It used to be a great place for discussion.

I agree with that. Banning Hamilton will be a terrible mistake, because he will easily come back on the forum, and learning from his mistakes, he will manage to screw the forum without getting banned in time.

He won't learn. And besides, it won't matter. Once it'd discovered it is Hamilton he'll be banned for circumvening the ban, just like Ogis every time, no matter how he acts.

Did someone only imagine that Swing Voter could be Hamilton before Nik revealed it ?

Well, but Hamilton main account should be banned regardless. If he go back under new and start to act the same way, than ban it too.

Sorry, but we can't surrended before statement like: "trolls will be back anyway".

Hamilton deserves to be banned for massive trolling, spamming spree, despite all chances he was given. I';m not list or new policy fan, but he's a real exception.

Acting by force will not work with Hamilton, he is too crafty and manipulative for that. IMO it's better to control and "regulate" him by preventing him to harm, rather than trying to get rid of him.
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« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2010, 10:48:01 am »
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Acting by force will not work with Hamilton, he is too crafty and manipulative for that. IMO it's better to control and "regulate" him by preventing him to harm, rather than trying to get rid of him.

So he would keep posting and mods will keep deleting it, right?
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2010, 10:51:54 am »
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Acting by force will not work with Hamilton, he is too crafty and manipulative for that. IMO it's better to control and "regulate" him by preventing him to harm, rather than trying to get rid of him.

So he would keep posting and mods will keep deleting it, right?

Treat him as a normal member of the TrollList. Delete all his posts except those regarding his political offices, and if he really improve his behaviour let him free until he starts trolling again. By doing so, we will prevent him from spamming without having him coming back under a new identity, and trying to screw the forum once again.
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