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change08
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 04, 2012, 04:44:02 pm »
Use electronic counting machines, they said.
It'll make it quicker, they said.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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I mean, this still is probably a whole lot quicker than a hand count.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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Reply #177 on:
May 04, 2012, 04:50:20 pm »
Adam Boulton: "It's more like David Brent than anything in Brent and Harrow."
Just remembered why I hate Sky News.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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Reply #178 on:
May 04, 2012, 05:24:07 pm »
The boxes are now all counted. All 14 GLA constituencies declared, Mayoral result shortly (for some value of shortly).
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Quote from: Minion of Midas on February 03, 2012, 05:50:26 am
There cannot have been a by-election here, as I didn't see an Andrew Teale writeup on it. Or else that by-election's validity should be challenged on the grounds that it was held without Andrew's written approval.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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Quote from: Chancellor of the Duchy of Smithills on May 04, 2012, 05:24:07 pm
The boxes are now all counted. All 14 GLA constituencies declared, Mayoral result shortly (for some value of shortly).
Just how difficult could a Lab-Grn majority in the GLA hypothetically make Boris' life? I understand it takes a 2/3rds majority (!) to block a mayor's budget?
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Quote from: Superique on October 18, 2012, 10:19:25 pm
Who is Richard Garrison Porter?
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Franzl
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on May 04, 2012, 04:44:02 pm
Use electronic counting machines, they said.
It'll make it quicker, they said.
Yeah, I've never understood that either. Can't be that difficult to just count the damn things normally...
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 04, 2012, 05:40:04 pm »
Quote from: Franzl on May 04, 2012, 05:31:03 pm
Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on May 04, 2012, 04:44:02 pm
Use electronic counting machines, they said.
It'll make it quicker, they said.
Yeah, I've never understood that either. Can't be that difficult to just count the damn things normally...
Never underestimate the ability of London to mess up a count.
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Quote from: Minion of Midas on February 03, 2012, 05:50:26 am
There cannot have been a by-election here, as I didn't see an Andrew Teale writeup on it. Or else that by-election's validity should be challenged on the grounds that it was held without Andrew's written approval.
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Reply #182 on:
May 04, 2012, 05:46:52 pm »
The bad thing for the government is that the narrative's alright set and London won't change it now. In the end, if Thursday had been a General Election, Ed Miliband would already be Prime Minister. I wonder who would've put money on results like these, just two years after the party's second worst result since the war...
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Sibboleth
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 04, 2012, 05:49:30 pm »
Might have done if I gambled, but I don't.
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May 04, 2012, 05:52:46 pm »
Press Association: Sources say Boris has been re-elected. Shock, horror.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 04, 2012, 06:00:20 pm »
Boris Johnson - 1,054,811
Ken Livingstone - 992,273
Ah, it'd have been too nice,...
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Quote from: Superique on October 18, 2012, 10:19:25 pm
Who is Richard Garrison Porter?
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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Reply #186 on:
May 04, 2012, 06:00:43 pm »
Final result 51.5 to 48.5
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 04, 2012, 06:01:19 pm »
Boris did not just do the May the 4th result. Christ.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 04, 2012, 06:06:30 pm »
Ken giving a sombre, yet nice speech.
Still, I would've voted for Benita.
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Reply #189 on:
May 04, 2012, 07:26:35 pm »
Final London Assembly totals:
Labour: 12
Conservatives: 9
Liberal Democrats: 2
Greens: 2
UKIP (and BNP) shut out
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May 04, 2012, 08:58:27 pm »
This is disconcertingly close, and they lost the Assembly too. But it will not be as close as the French election.
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Vasall des Midas
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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May 05, 2012, 03:40:12 am »
First round count is Johnson 44.1, Livingstone 40.3. Livingstone adds second prefs of 29.5% of the first round others, Johnson 23.9 (or 55.3-44.7 of valid second pref.s, not a meaningful number). This gives a final tally of 47.8-44.9 (of people who cast a valid first round vote. 51.6-48.4 of valid second round votes, not a meaningful number either) and Johnson elected without a quota.
Incidentally, though no one has polled a majority on the first round before, this is the first time the winner "needed second preferences", ie his first round tally was less than the runner-up's second round tally.
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May 05, 2012, 05:44:26 am »
So, who would like to be the first to tell everyone what's wrong with the BBC's map of the assembly results?
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May 05, 2012, 05:50:24 am »
Lack of shading? It's correct as far as its information content goes as far as I can see.
Oh, or maybe you mean the fact that it misleadingly shows the borough lines yet is colored in by constituency.
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Re: London Mayoral Election 2012
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The level of ticket splitting in Barnet & Camden is pretty hilarious.
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May 05, 2012, 06:51:54 am »
That's the only place where there's a real difference between the list and direct votes (for Tories and Labour that is.) Andrew Dismore '16?
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Quote from: Tussen Droom en Daad on May 04, 2012, 05:29:28 pm
Quote from: Chancellor of the Duchy of Smithills on May 04, 2012, 05:24:07 pm
The boxes are now all counted. All 14 GLA constituencies declared, Mayoral result shortly (for some value of shortly).
Just how difficult could a Lab-Grn majority in the GLA hypothetically make Boris' life? I understand it takes a 2/3rds majority (!) to block a mayor's budget?
It takes a two-thirds majority for them to amend the mayor's budget or any of his statutory provisions. Otherwise, they only have the power to investigate, question, and advise. To get 2/3 Labour and Green would need both Lib Dems and a Conservative defector somehow.
The only thing I can think of that could maybe get the required supermajority would be if Labour decided to push for some sort of local initiative/referendum process- they'd presumably get Lib Dem support and could probably get Andrew Boff to buck his party on the issue.
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Quote from: Minion of Midas on May 05, 2012, 05:50:24 am
Lack of shading? It's correct as far as its information content goes as far as I can see.
Oh, or maybe you mean the fact that it misleadingly shows the borough lines yet is colored in by constituency.
The latter was what I was getting at, I briefly though Labour had won Hillingdon, Harrow and Barnet..
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Reply #198 on:
May 05, 2012, 11:24:51 am »
I hope they release ward data again this time, last time I created a map, assigning wards based on the total vote by borough and giving smaller parties their best wards, I never uploaded it here though and hard disk failures mean I've lost it
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They'll be released in a couple of days, apparently.
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