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TheDeadFlagBlues
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New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 01:13:31 am »
A new SUSA poll shows these awful numbers for Christie:
Do you approve or disapprove of the job Chris Christie is doing as Governor?
Approve 38%
Disapprove 56%
Should Governor Chris Christie run for President of the United States in 2012? Not run for President? Or do you not know enough to say?
Should Run 15%
Should Not 73%
Compared to Barack Obama, would Christie be a better President? A worse President? Or would he be about the same?
Better 29%
Worse 53%
About The Same 14%
Compared to George W. Bush, would Christie be a better President? A worse President? Or would he be about the same?
Better 25%
Worse 30%
About The Same 32%
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5ef5275c-3166-493d-aecb-3d856c8705a5
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 01:28:08 am »
Quote from: TheDeadFlagBlues on May 13, 2011, 01:13:31 am
Compared to George W. Bush, would Christie be a better President? A worse President? Or would he be about the same?
Better 25%
Worse 30%
About The Same 32%
OUCH
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 01:46:54 am »
I guess his bullying schtick grew old pretty fast.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 01:51:16 am »
SUSA is a joke so ill wait to see if PPP confirms these numbers.
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Dgov
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 02:30:11 am »
Quote from: Speaker Napoleon on May 13, 2011, 01:51:16 am
SUSA is a joke so ill wait to see if PPP confirms these numbers.
Yeah, and this wouldn't be the first time a pollster comes out with terrible numbers for Christie only to be completely discredited by everyone else.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 09:21:41 am »
Quote from: Speaker Napoleon on May 13, 2011, 01:51:16 am
SUSA is a joke so ill wait to see if PPP confirms these numbers.
Not sure if they're a joke, exactly, but they do have a history of reporting much harsher approval numbers for NJ incumbents, Democrat and Republican alike.
The most recent Quinnipiac (3 weeks ago) showed Christie at 47–46 approvals. I'd be surprised if his numbers really moved so sharply, so fast without a scandal.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 02:18:28 pm »
SUSA's last poll had him at 33/62 which was way out of line which everyone else was showing. This is actually an improvement from the last SUSA poll.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 06:11:58 pm »
Doubt it.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 13, 2011, 06:59:45 pm »
Junk poll
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PulaskiSkywayDriver
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 14, 2011, 11:33:23 am »
Hughes Center has him at 48-45. As I expected, President Obama's ratings have surged here to 66% thanks to the death of Bin Laden.
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Miamiu1027
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May 14, 2011, 12:19:59 pm »
he was never that popular to begin with. a bit of a media darling but never got out of the low 50s.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 14, 2011, 06:14:43 pm »
I don't see why this guy is suddenly the darling of the right. He's like the Yankee version of Haley Barbour (substitute rudeness for racism).
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May 14, 2011, 06:22:21 pm »
Quote from: I'm Not a Witch on May 14, 2011, 06:14:43 pm
I don't see why this guy is suddenly the darling of the right. He's like the Yankee version of Haley Barbour (substitute rudeness for racism).
he is the public face (and best public communicator) of those on the frontlines in a key battlefield of the class war: the battle to destroy the existing labor union infrastructure, where it is strongest (or, increasingly, the only place it exists at all), the public sector. obviously the business press will fawn over him, and thus so will the people that internalize the stories thrown at them.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 15, 2011, 09:56:09 am »
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on May 14, 2011, 06:22:21 pm
Quote from: I'm Not a Witch on May 14, 2011, 06:14:43 pm
I don't see why this guy is suddenly the darling of the right. He's like the Yankee version of Haley Barbour (substitute rudeness for racism).
he is the public face (and best public communicator) of those on the frontlines in a key battlefield of the class war: the battle to destroy the existing labor union infrastructure, where it is strongest (or, increasingly, the only place it exists at all), the public sector. obviously the business press will fawn over him, and thus so will the people that internalize the stories thrown at them.
This, also many Republicans don't realize that Christie won largely due to Corzine and would have lost against, say, Codey or Pallone.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 15, 2011, 10:09:26 am »
Quote from: Mr. X on May 15, 2011, 09:56:09 am
This, also many Republicans don't realize that Christie won largely due to Corzine and would have lost against, say, Codey or Pallone.
I don't think that's accurate.
Codey would have won, but that's a special case because he was a popular former governor. Christie was viewed as an incredibly strong candidate, one that New Jersey Democrats viewed in 2008 to be, by and large, unbeatable. I don't think Pallone would have have won.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 15, 2011, 10:56:51 am »
Quote from: Mr. Moderate on May 15, 2011, 10:09:26 am
Quote from: Mr. X on May 15, 2011, 09:56:09 am
This, also many Republicans don't realize that Christie won largely due to Corzine and would have lost against, say, Codey or Pallone.
I don't think that's accurate.
Codey would have won, but that's a special case because he was a popular former governor. Christie was viewed as an incredibly strong candidate, one that New Jersey Democrats viewed in 2008 to be, by and large, unbeatable. I don't think Pallone would have have won.
Christie might have looked good on paper but he ran a pretty poor campaign. He allowed the election to become a referendum on him, not Corzine.
And even the WSJ accused him of saying nothing of substance about the issues as a candidate.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 15, 2011, 11:00:57 am »
Quote from: Mr. Moderate on May 15, 2011, 10:09:26 am
Quote from: Mr. X on May 15, 2011, 09:56:09 am
This, also many Republicans don't realize that Christie won largely due to Corzine and would have lost against, say, Codey or Pallone.
I don't think that's accurate.
Codey would have won, but that's a special case because he was a popular former governor. Christie was viewed as an incredibly strong candidate, one that New Jersey Democrats viewed in 2008 to be, by and large, unbeatable. I don't think Pallone would have have won.
Christie ran a pretty bad campaign and only barely beat the very unpopular Corzine. Someone who didn't have the baggage of being an unpopular incumbent almost certainly would have beaten him.
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krazen1211
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May 15, 2011, 11:40:58 am »
Quote from: Mr. Moderate on May 15, 2011, 10:09:26 am
Quote from: Mr. X on May 15, 2011, 09:56:09 am
This, also many Republicans don't realize that Christie won largely due to Corzine and would have lost against, say, Codey or Pallone.
I don't think that's accurate.
Codey would have won, but that's a special case because he was a popular former governor. Christie was viewed as an incredibly strong candidate, one that New Jersey Democrats viewed in 2008 to be, by and large, unbeatable. I don't think Pallone would have have won.
Really silly speculation. Codey fell out of favor with the machine so its really moot. Corzine did as the unions commanded.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 17, 2011, 11:48:20 pm »
New Monmouth poll:
Adults: 47-49
RV: 46-49
http://www.monmouth.edu/polling/admin/polls/MUP39_1.pdf
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 18, 2011, 08:47:32 am »
(good job, SUSA)
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 24, 2011, 12:56:33 pm »
Another poll out today (FDU):
44% Approve
44% Disapprove
40% Favorable
45% Unfavorable
The Fairleigh Dickinson University poll of 804 registered voters statewide was conducted by telephone with both landline and cell phones from May 16 through May 22, 2011, and has a margin of error of +/-3.5 percentage points.
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/blue
...
SurveyUSA seems to not only have a anti-Obama bias in most of their state surveys, but also a anti-Christie bias ...
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 24, 2011, 01:39:25 pm »
Even so, this the second or third poll that finds Christie's numbers slipping during the last month. Maybe the locals can enlighten us if anything special happened or it's just Newjerseyans returning to their usual grumpy mode.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 24, 2011, 01:47:53 pm »
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 24, 2011, 12:56:33 pm
Another poll out today (FDU):
44% Approve
44% Disapprove
40% Favorable
45% Unfavorable
The Fairleigh Dickinson University poll of 804 registered voters statewide was conducted by telephone with both landline and cell phones from May 16 through May 22, 2011, and has a margin of error of +/-3.5 percentage points.
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/blue
...
SurveyUSA seems to not only have a anti-Obama bias in most of their state surveys, but also a anti-Christie bias ...
Christie has a high floor and a low ceiling like any NJ governor. This is nothing new. Of course, the Democrats are about to take away our property tax relief.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 24, 2011, 03:41:49 pm »
Quote from: Landslide Lyndon on May 24, 2011, 01:39:25 pm
Even so, this the second or third poll that finds Christie's numbers slipping during the last month. Maybe the locals can enlighten us if anything special happened or it's just Newjerseyans returning to their usual grumpy mode.
Ever since the property tax cap of last year, there haven't been any accomplishments.
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Re: New Jersey Turns Against Christie
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May 25, 2011, 01:18:45 pm »
Quote from: Landslide Lyndon on May 24, 2011, 01:39:25 pm
Even so, this the second or third poll that finds Christie's numbers slipping during the last month. Maybe the locals can enlighten us if anything special happened or it's just Newjerseyans returning to their usual grumpy mode.
The teachers' union is running ads against Christie. And his poll numbers have usually been lowest in the spring, for whatever reason.
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