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« Reply #1275 on: March 23, 2012, 07:54:48 pm »
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Except for her Cullen assessment, agreed with Hebert. Interesting that none of these commentators mention the ideology thing though.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1151326--hebert-ndp-candidates-make-final-push-by-playing-to-their-weaknesses


Agreed with everything except Dewar and to a degree, Mulcair.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/23/andrew-coyne-reviews-the-seven-candidate-speeches-at-the-ndp-leadership-convention/
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« Reply #1276 on: March 23, 2012, 09:39:33 pm »
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If any previous Canadian convention is any guide, each round should take approximately two hours than they say it will.

Anyway, really I have no idea what will happen. I guess Mulcair will probably win after a few rounds - he seems to have not done anything idiotic and has broad enough support within the party. But who knows, really.

Contrary to what has been occasionally suggested, I doubt that the down-ballot choices for most candidates will be that different from the first ballot - people make their choices on the basis of all kinds of things. And if Topp goes out early having failed to get much traction, plenty of his votes will go to Mulcair. The sort of people who form Topp's core base aren't fools as to the Quebec situation.

On the other hand, even though it's pretty unlikely, I'll admit it wouldn't completely shock me if Topp were stronger than the forum thinks. If we hadn't had any real polls and only had the internet (which is basically our situation now), we would have thought that Hillary Clinton had only "establishment" and no "grassroots" support too...
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« Reply #1277 on: March 24, 2012, 09:03:36 am »
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First round

Ashton 3737 5.7%
Singh 3821 5.8%
Dewar 4883 7.4%
Nash 8353 12.8%
Cullen 10671 16.3%
Topp 13915 21.3%
Mulcair 19728 30.2%
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« Reply #1278 on: March 24, 2012, 09:04:09 am »
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Mulcair 30.3% vs Topp 21.4% vs Cullen 16.4% vs Nash 12.8% vs Dewar 7.5% vs Singh 5.9% vs Ashton 5.7%
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20:49   Snowstalker   yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57   Snowstalker   sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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« Reply #1279 on: March 24, 2012, 09:04:50 am »
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Topp in second? Stick a fork in it, it's done. -_-
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« Reply #1280 on: March 24, 2012, 09:05:22 am »
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Seems underwhelming for Tommy, but I guess he'll end up winning Sad
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« Reply #1281 on: March 24, 2012, 09:06:51 am »
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I think Cullen's support is more likely to go to Topp (BC), and Nash's to Mulcair (Toronto/ON). Singh to Mulcair, probably. Don't know about Dewar.
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« Reply #1282 on: March 24, 2012, 09:07:34 am »
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Seems underwhelming for Tommy, but I guess he'll end up winning Sad
Strong showing for Cullen. A lot of Favorite Son support from BC in there, I suppose.
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« Reply #1283 on: March 24, 2012, 09:07:49 am »
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Gosh, Niki Ashton's platitudes about "new politics" is more annoying than Mittbot's speeches.
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« Reply #1284 on: March 24, 2012, 09:08:33 am »
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Looks like Singh is endorsing Mulcair?
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« Reply #1285 on: March 24, 2012, 09:09:14 am »
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What are their political views compared to each other?
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« Reply #1286 on: March 24, 2012, 09:09:22 am »
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Dewar is dropping out too.

And Mitt Romney has better French than Paul Dewar.
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« Reply #1287 on: March 24, 2012, 09:10:25 am »
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Wtf?  Topp in second?  And Singh is actually ahead of Ashton?  This is really weird.
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« Reply #1288 on: March 24, 2012, 09:10:43 am »
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I wonder what Earl is thinking.

Ashton out.
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« Reply #1289 on: March 24, 2012, 09:12:37 am »
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Can anyone tell me  Cullen Topp and Mulclair's views compared to each other?
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« Reply #1290 on: March 24, 2012, 09:13:12 am »
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And Nash is staying put. When do we get the next ballot? 11?
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« Reply #1291 on: March 24, 2012, 09:13:56 am »
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Supposed to be 11, most likely 11:30 or 12. Might as well get some laundry done. Smiley

I hope Nash finishes in second. Maybe I should've made her my first choice.
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« Reply #1292 on: March 24, 2012, 09:20:58 am »
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Charlie Angus is backing Mulcair (and doesn't seem all that enthused about it).
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« Reply #1293 on: March 24, 2012, 09:23:02 am »
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Charlie will just have to live with it.
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« Reply #1294 on: March 24, 2012, 09:24:45 am »
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Apparently Mulcair started having a temper tantrum and yelling at staff members and delegates because he didn't hit 35%. 
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« Reply #1295 on: March 24, 2012, 09:26:14 am »
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I'm sure that happened. I totally saw it while watching the convention live.
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« Reply #1296 on: March 24, 2012, 09:44:05 am »
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Quote from: Peternerdman on March 24, 2012, 09:10:25 am
Wtf?  Topp in second?  And Singh is actually ahead of Ashton?  This is really weird.

Some people like to troll their ballot. Some people vote for the "minority" (though Singh being a convert is White, actually.) And some people probably actually liked him in the debates and such.
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« Reply #1297 on: March 24, 2012, 09:54:53 am »
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Quote from: Holmes on March 24, 2012, 09:26:14 am
I'm sure that happened. I totally saw it while watching the convention live.
It's been reported by people nearby.  And knowing him, it's not that hard to believe.
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« Reply #1298 on: March 24, 2012, 10:09:21 am »
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Why is James Moore creeping at the NDP convention, besides trolling? The Purgatories are scary people.

What a douche.
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20:57   Snowstalker   sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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« Reply #1299 on: March 24, 2012, 10:40:23 am »
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Wow.  11:38.  They won't extend the time for leaders' speeches enough so that Mulcair can say his speech well and Nash can actually make a speech without technical difficulties, yet they let an interim leader's speech go on long enough to throw voting this much off-schedule?
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