The Official 2012 Campaign Ad Thread

[Keystone Phil]

The singing ad...the Bain Truth ad...

Yikes!

[I Am Damo Suzuki]

I usually detest negative campaigning but I like the singing ad. Bain Capital is an ugly example of certain business model that deserves condemnation. Greediness is a Capital sin, isn't it? The funny thing is that all the candidates pretend to be American patriots and outsourcing jobs is only a business affair.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Mitt Romney: Asking for Apologies While Launching Attacks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDuk6dYjocM

Mitt Romney's Bain Secret Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va78bM53I9k

That first one could almost be a Romney ad. There's not one thing in those Romney clips that I disagree with.

[You kip if you want to...]

The singing ad...the Bain Truth ad...

Yikes!

Think we've just got the best one of the cycle (so far), right there.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Has Obama made any good positive web videos? I'm curious.

Some of the Romney patriotism ones are pretty good.

[Minnesota Mike]

Has Obama made any good positive web videos? I'm curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0OVngTHkNg&feature=relmfu

[pepper11]

Has Obama made any good positive web videos? I'm curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0OVngTHkNg&feature=relmfu

That's a good ad.

[kingthlayer]

I love watching Republicans whine about these ads and say how they're mean and unfair. Now you know what the last four years have felt like for us.

So. Flucking. True!

[pepper11]

Hope and Change?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roodiGY0W1A&feature=player_embedded

[Meeker]

Meh. Obama was willing to try hope and change and bipartisanship when he took office. The other side responded by calling him a secret Muslim born in Kenya, saying that he wanted to create government panels to kill old people, and saying that he was trying to institute socialism. Pretty difficult to work together and find common ground with people who approach the situation with that sort of attitude.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Not really. Obama started out of the gate as being a president for one side, not for the country. He saw his two majorities and took them for granted... he thought he didn't need to be a unifying president.  That sorta floundered when he could barely even pass Obamacare with those two majorities. Obama could've tried a little harder.

[Yank2133]

Not really. Obama started out of the gate as being a president for one side, not for the country. He saw his two majorities and took them for granted... he thought he didn't need to be a unifying president.  That sorta floundered when he could barely even pass Obamacare with those two majorities. Obama could've tried a little harder.

Talk about revisionist history.

Obama's problem was he tried to be this unifying President at the expense of results. I think he learned last year that people don't really care about bipartisanship, they care about results.

[A dog on every car, a car in every elevator]

With the way Obama is raining attacks on Romney, it's hard to remember the Obama of 2008 who heroically refused to say anything negative about John McCain.  Who can forget that scene in Game Change when Axelrod screened a cut of an ad attacking McCain's scandals early in his congressional career and Obama popped out the DVD, snapped it and said "hope" as he dropped one half in a trash can and "change" as he dropped the other half, then coolly walked out of the room.  Unless I'm imagining that and the media is retarded.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Not really. Obama started out of the gate as being a president for one side, not for the country. He saw his two majorities and took them for granted... he thought he didn't need to be a unifying president.  That sorta floundered when he could barely even pass Obamacare with those two majorities. Obama could've tried a little harder.

Talk about revisionist history.

Obama's problem was he tried to be this unifying President at the expense of results. I think he learned last year that people don't really care about bipartisanship, they care about results.

If trying to pass health care reform that nobody wanted in the middle of a recession is "unifying," I guess I can admit that Obama excelled.

[Meeker]

Not really. Obama started out of the gate as being a president for one side, not for the country. He saw his two majorities and took them for granted... he thought he didn't need to be a unifying president.  That sorta floundered when he could barely even pass Obamacare with those two majorities. Obama could've tried a little harder.

Oh yes, taking an idea (the individual mandate) that was thought up in a conservative thinktank and most famously implemented by a Republican Governor was definitely just being President for one side.

[AmericanNation]

Not really. Obama started out of the gate as being a president for one side, not for the country. He saw his two majorities and took them for granted... he thought he didn't need to be a unifying president.  That sorta floundered when he could barely even pass Obamacare with those two majorities. Obama could've tried a little harder.

Oh yes, taking an idea (the individual mandate) that was thought up in a conservative thinktank and most famously implemented by a Republican Governor was definitely just being President for one side.

Yes because that is all Obama-care is.  Vastly superior reform with Individual mandates at the state level implemented by state governments with some responsiveness to the people is one thing, comparing it to Obama-care... LOL.     

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Maybe the mandate was a Republican idea earlier in the decade. Fine. But the GOP was a different animal in 2008-2009-2010, and Obama knew that--he's not as stupid as he seems.

Either way, the "Republican mandate" doesn't account for the trouble Obama had even shoring up the support of Blue Dogs. We must remember that Obamacare did not turn out how Obama had initially envisioned: He wanted a public option that got scrapped in order to appease other Democrats. That doesn't sound like someone trying to unify both sides of the spectrum. His initial goals weren't even in-line with centre-left Democrats!

That ain't a unifier.

[AmericanNation]

It's such a Republican idea that it was only tried in Massachusetts. 

[A dog on every car, a car in every elevator]

Did Obama promise to veto any law that didn't pass unanimously or something?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

No, but it's still foolish to suggest Obama even tried to actually bring hope and change to Washington politics.

[A dog on every car, a car in every elevator]

"Hope" and "Change" are vague, useless slogans.  As is "Believe in America".  What are we, 5 years old?  There's no meaning to be found in any of it.  Obama never promised to not run attack ads against his opponent (he did so frequently in 2008), he never promised not to pass things the Republicans opposed. The Republicans have taken to pointing to their constant attempts at obstruction (often of things they themselves used to support) as evidence Obama broke his promise to be a uniter.  What promise?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

"Hope" and "Change" are vague, useless slogans.  As is "Believe in America".  What are we, 5 years old?  There's no meaning to be found in any of it.  Obama never promised to not run attack ads against his opponent (he did so frequently in 2008), he never promised not to pass things the Republicans opposed. The Republicans have taken to pointing to their constant attempts at obstruction (often of things they themselves used to support) as evidence Obama broke his promise to be a uniter.  What promise?

The problem is, Obama was such an effective manipulator that "Hope" and "Change," to many Americans, were not just vague, useless slogans.

[Meeker]

Seems like the only Americans who were under that impression were partisan Republicans who wanted to use it as evidence of failure by their political opponent.

[AmericanNation]

Seems like the only Americans who were under that impression were partisan Republicans who wanted to use it as evidence of failure by their political opponent.

way to throw most of the democrat party under the bus.  Are you saying they don't exist or aren't Americans?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Seems like the only Americans who were under that impression were partisan Republicans who wanted to use it as evidence of failure by their political opponent.

Nah, we knew hope and change were lies from the beginning. We're just going to judge Obama by the standards that he set for himself.