Greece 2012

[Keystone Phil]

Fun times ahead for Greece!

[The Mikado]

Poor Greek Greens.  2.93%.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

[asexual trans victimologist]

'Not in Parl/mnt' is the winning 'party' now.

[I left.]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

[batmacumba]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

The thought that any share of anyone's compatriots voted neonazis inside a parliament is not only depressive, but is another argument against mankind.

[Bacon King]

Markets reacting predictably; Greek Stock Market was down 8.2% before a slight rally that's "only" left it down 6% for the day.

In other news, DIMAR has ruled out the possibility of a coalition with ND and/or PASOK.

[Bacon King]

Also, looks like I misunderstood the Greek Constitution- process doesn't start when Parliament's seated, it starts now. President Papoulias just gave an exploratory mandate to the ND leader. If he's going to get a Government, he's got 71.5 hours for the bribes to go through.

[Roma Caput Mundi]

149 seats for Pasok+ND...

[Keystone Phil]

Time for a few ANEL members to save the world.

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

[batmacumba]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

[batmacumba]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

[asexual trans victimologist]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

Is there some especial reason why it's unfair to make disparaging remarks about Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn?

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

Is there some especial reason why it's unfair to make disparaging remarks about Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn?

No. Don't be silly. But they aren't "Greeks", they are Greeks who have done something specific.

[© Tweed the Younger]

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

Edit: link to nazi website removed.

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

Tweed, you have lost me now.

[asexual trans victimologist]

The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

Is there some especial reason why it's unfair to make disparaging remarks about Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn?

No. Don't be silly. But they aren't "Greeks", they are Greeks who have done something specific.

It was the votes that were described as utterly-retarded.

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

Nope. Not when there are better options available, which is very, very, very seldom NOT the case.

[© Tweed the Younger]

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

Tweed, you have lost me now.

the point is to break out of the grip of the international financial institutions: THE crucial plank shared by the far right and Left (Syriza, KKE insofar as it has an actual platform, and GD).  then once that is done, the vacuum is created and we can slug it out on the streets.

[asexual trans victimologist]

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

Tweed, you have lost me now.

the point is to break out of the grip of the international financial institutions: THE crucial plank shared by the far right and Left (Syriza, KKE insofar as it has an actual platform, and GD).  then once that is done, the vacuum is created and we can slug it out on the streets.

The problem is I'm not confident in the chances at that point. The far right seems a lot more brutal.

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

@Nathan: It's not clear to whom he was referring with his [batmacumba] comments about 'retarded votes'. I hope it is the neonazis but I can't be sure, look at attitudes the likes of Franzl have constantly displayed in threads on this issue to see this.

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

Tweed, you have lost me now.

the point is to break out of the grip of the international financial institutions: THE crucial plank shared by the far right and Left (Syriza, KKE insofar as it has an actual platform, and GD).  then once that is done, the vacuum is created and we can slug it out on the streets.

Do I really need to explain why this is a terrible idea?

[© Tweed the Younger]

there are reasons why it could or would be, but I would be interested to hear why you would think it so.

[Grumps]

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

No.  My grandparents who hailed from Greece just had their burning desire to get the hell out of there asap when they were young, validated.