2012 Elections in Germany

[Tender Branson]

actually i do, i have a blog on the far right in europe and that is why i am here and asking about the pro-nrw...  id also like to know if how the NPD are doing...

In both the constituencies wholly in, pro NRW and NPD are the two strongest "others", but not by much and not doing at all well or any better than last time. They are not doing well enough to get any sort of mainstream media attention, so official results are all I have.

Do you have any numbers for me Midas?

Just click on that link I posted.

[Vasall des Midas]

1.0, 0.8, 0.6. That sort of thing. (Just noticed the NPD is actually third strongest "other" in one of them, not second.)

And we have a third result in, Düsseldorf III.

SPD 32.1 (+4.6)
CDU 24.6 (-8.9)
Greens 16.4 (-1.6)
FDP 13.1 (+4.1)
Pirates 7.4 (+5.4)
Left 3.3 (-3.0)

Another SPD gain.

(pro NRW 0.9. NPD just 0.3.)

[Vasall des Midas]

http://www.wahlergebnisse.nrw.de/landtagswahlen/2012/aktuell/index.html

[Vasall des Midas]

Results coming in fast now, and more family for me. (Höxter, CDU heartland, my grandmother's mother was from. Moers, SPD heartland near Duisburg, I have an uncle living.)

A CDU incumbent in Viersen saved by ticket-splitting voters.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Where the SPD is winning, the pirates are doing better..

The SPD wins everywhere, mostly from the CDU.

The Pirates are stronger in the bigger cities, but the differences are minimal

[Hashemite]

Why is Stark not banned yet?

[Democratic Hawk]

Seriously, how bad a result is North Rhine-Westphalia for Angela Merkel moving forward into 2013? Any other major electoral tests coming up between now and the federal elections? Is it a potential sign of things to come?

[Old Europe]

Seriously, how bad a result is North Rhine-Westphalia for Angela Merkel moving forward into 2013? Any other major electoral tests coming up between now and the federal elections? Is it a potential sign of things to come?

The CDU had a sh**tty candidate who ran sh**tty campaign. Just the opposite of the FDP, actually. In other state elections, the CDU may have better candidates.

But to answer your question: There's the Lower Saxony state election on January 20, 2013. That's all there is if you disregard the mostly insignificant Schleswig-Holstein local elections which will also be held sometime early next year.

[Californian Tony]

So Fast Drei Prozent is now Über Acht Prozent now ? Meh...

[Democratic Hawk]

Seriously, how bad a result is North Rhine-Westphalia for Angela Merkel moving forward into 2013? Any other major electoral tests coming up between now and the federal elections? Is it a potential sign of things to come?

The CDU had a sh**tty candidate who ran sh**tty campaign. Just the opposite of the FDP, actually. In other state elections, the CDU may have better candidates.

But to answer your question: There's the Lower Saxony state election on January 20, 2013. That's all there is if you disregard the mostly insignificant Schleswig-Holstein local elections which will also be held sometime early next year.

Thanks

[Old Europe]

Hannelore Kraft (SPD) and Christian Lindner (FDP) are considered authentic and/or likeable. Norbert Röttgen (CDU) is an epic fail as a candidate and a campaigner. Sylvia Löhrmann (Greens) was overshadowed by Kraft and reduced to the role of the sidekick.

Guess what happens when a weak challenger faces a popular incumbent?

[Insula Dei]

Thing. of. Beauty.

[I left.]

This is obviously a disaster for the NRW-CDU, and even I would not have voted for them, but I think it's a rather large stretch to claim that this was in any way a rejection of the federal CDU and Merkel's policies. The CDU hasn't done too polrly in the orher elections this year, and the federal CDU is still polling at or above 2009 levels.

It's quite unfortunate that this is being discussed as Merkel's problem when in reality, she isn't at fault.

[Sibboleth]

This is really, really funny.

Anyways, Nazis are not welcome here so please fyck off, whoever you are.

[Old Europe]

This is really, really funny.

Anyways, Nazis are not welcome here so please fyck off, whoever you are.

im assuming you mean me and im not a nazis, im not even a nationalist actually i consider myself to be an anarchist.  I merely want the election results for the PRNW and NPD cause i blog about the far right.  this is all one word of course but i cant post links yet, european nationalism . blogspot . com   to prove my point.  but hey, im glad you dont like nazis \m/

You also happen to use the "Golden Dawn" logo as your picture/avatar in your blogger.com profile.

So you're a Nazi and a liar then.

[Roma Caput Mundi]

Leave the nazi alone,nature already insulted him enough by letting him live.


Anyway,sweet results. Even Germans start to openly criticize Merkel's agenda...

[I left.]

Leave the nazi alone,nature already insulted him enough by letting him live.


Anyway,sweet results. Even Germans start to openly criticize Merkel's agenda...

Where are you all getting this idea that this has anything to do with Merkel's agenda. It has very little relevance in this state election. The partly leaders in NRW were the most important factor.

[Old Europe]

Leave the nazi alone,nature already insulted him enough by letting him live.


Anyway,sweet results. Even Germans start to openly criticize Merkel's agenda...

While German citizens have "openly criticized" Merkel's agenda for quite some time now (but often more in a "none of our tax money for lazy Greeks!" way), the federal government's policies played only a very minor role in the Northrhine-Westphalia election.

[Old Europe]

Where are you all getting this idea that this has anything to do with Merkel's agenda. It has very little relevance in this state election. The partly leaders in NRW were the most important factor.

Mostly foreign press, probably.

Headlines on BBC's news site currently include "State election deals blow to Germany's Merkel",  "NRW election: Merkel shaken at state poll" and "NRW election: Merkel admits 'bitter' defeat".

Who gives a f**k about trivial German state-level issue and the popularity of Hannelore Kraft (someone who's almost completely unknown outside Germany's borders), when it can be made into something much much bigger. Like Angela Merkel.

[DL]

Hannelore seems to be by far the most popular SPD politician in Germany these days. Has there been any talk of making her the SPD candidate for Chancellor against Merkel next year??

[Tender Branson]

Hannelore seems to be by far the most popular SPD politician in Germany these days. Has there been any talk of making her the SPD candidate for Chancellor against Merkel next year??

Yes, there has been, but she has ruled it categorically out and will remain in NRW for the next 5 years - which is good.

[Tender Branson]

Maps:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/wahlergebnisse-landtagswahl-nordrhein-westfalen-2012-a-829466.html

Click on "Wahlkreise" (electoral districts).

"Erststimme" means "direct vote for a district candidate", while "Zweitstimme" means "party list vote".

[Old Europe]

The most interesting fallout from the NRW election is that Oskar Lafontaine is making a play for return to chairmanship of the Left Party now. His plans for a power-grab is meeting with resistance from the eastern state chapters of the party though.

[I left.]

Hannelore seems to be by far the most popular SPD politician in Germany these days. Has there been any talk of making her the SPD candidate for Chancellor against Merkel next year??

Yes, there has been, but she has ruled it categorically out and will remain in NRW for the next 5 years - which is good.

Probably. But we'll see.

[Vasall des Midas]

When a member of a higher-level government runs for a lower level, and esp. if he doesn't resign his position and intends to retain it in case of defeat, the government is automatically at poll. (He also loses votes both by appearing less than committed and by not being able to criticize the government, not even in the ways other politicians of the same party do routinely. Boris Rhein suffered the exact same problems in Frankfurt.) It's just that it was the less-than-popular federal government vs the popular state government, not the federal government vs the hapless useless federal opposition.