2012 Elections in Germany

[I left.]

The FDP actually gaining seats somewhere!?!?!?!

What is this madness?

Somme disappointed CDU voters voted this time FDP and their leader Lindner makes an Anti-Federal-FDP campaign.

Yeah it's rather clear that there was a strong last minute movement from CDU to FDP, likely because of the idiot Röttgen.

[Sibboleth]

Hahahaha

[Vasall des Midas]

I just read "Röttgen resigns" somewhere and thought he'd resigned from the federal cabinet. But no, he just resigned as state CDU chair.

[Tender Branson]

Just came back from a visit.

So, the 2 Red-Green Schuldenmuttis got re-elected in a landslide ?

FUCK YEAH !

[I left.]

Wasn't aware you were that interested in NRW, Tender..,

[Tender Branson]

Wasn't aware you were that interested in NRW, Tender..,

Sure, where else would you find Red-Green coalitions in states with 18 Million people ?

[Tender Branson]

BTW, what's up with that Currywurst poster from the SPD ? Is that a real campaign poster or a joke poster ?

[Tender Branson]

New ARD projection:



New ZDF projection:

[Vasall des Midas]

It's real.

http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/nrw-wahl/wahlkampf-in-nrw-currywurst-ist-spd_aid_739606.html
http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/nrw-wahl-2012/currywurst-ist-spd-das-wahlkampfplakat-und-seine-macher/6526804.html

Heh. This is still der Doris ihrem Mann seine Partei, after all.

[Tender Branson]

Changes compared with the 2010 election:

[Tender Branson]

The direct vote for Prime Minister numbers are just brutal:

[Tender Branson]

BTW: Who will likely follow Röttgen now as CDU boss ?

[Tender Branson]

From the ZDF Exit Poll:

"Who is closer to the people ?"

65% Kraft
  3% Röttgen
21% No difference

[Tender Branson]

Women voted:

40 SPD
26 CDU
14 Greens
  8 FDP
  6 Pirates
  3 Left

Men voted:

36 SPD
25 CDU 
11 Pirates
11 Greens
  9 FDP
  4 Left

[Beet]

It looks like Germans aren't too thrilled with austerity either.

[You kip if you want to...]

It looks like Germans aren't too thrilled with austerity either.

I wish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election

[TheParliamentarian]

How is the Pro-NRW doing?

[Vasall des Midas]

First constituency result in - Olpe. Rural, Catholic Sauerland.

turnout 60.0 (-0.4)
CDU 43.1 (-8.0)
SPD 30.9 (+5.3)
FDP 7.7 (+0.9)
Greens 6.7 (-0.7)
Pirates 6.6 (+5.6)
Left 1.6 (-2.2)
pro NRW are strongest "other" at 1.0 (-0.2). Needless to say CDU held the direct seat.

[Tender Branson]

How is the Pro-NRW doing?

Negligible.

At a street fight recently they only managed to get 15 of their people to beat up 800 Salafists.

[Vasall des Midas]

Soest II (ie Lippstadt)

turnout 58.3 (+0.7)
SPD 39.1 (+5.9)
CDU 30.5 (-7.7)
FDP 8.9 (+0.2)
Greens 8.7 (-1.1)
Pirates 7.3 (+5.9)
Left 2.2 (-2.7)

SPD gain direct seat.

Interesting place. Smallish town with slight traces of a boboish studenty vibe, surrounded by Catholic countryside. The western half of Soest district has a few ancestrally protestant corners, and parts of its countryside are uglily suburbanifying (but Soest itself is also a nice, if touristy in a lowkey way, town).

[Tender Branson]

How is the Pro-NRW doing?

Negligible.

At a street fight recently they only managed to get 15 of their people to beat up 800 Salafists.

You probably have no clue what I'm talking about, so:

Extremists vs. Extremists: Salafists and Right-Wing Populists Battle in Bonn

Germany's right-wing populists are fond of insulting Islam in order to attract attention. On Saturday, violence prone Salafists took the bait, resulting in a riot that left 29 police injured. Despite the clash, however, the anti-Islam party can continue to display their anti-Islam caricatures, a court has decided.

It was clear from the start that the tiny, right-wing populist group Pro-NRW would stop at nothing to attract attention in the run-up to state elections in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia this Sunday. With Salafists in the state now reacting violently to Pro-NRW's inflammatory parading of Muhammad caricatures in front of Muslim establishments, the splinter party appears to have gotten its wish.

On Saturday, violence flared anew when Salafists attacked police protecting a Pro-NRW demonstration in front of a Saudi Arabian school in Bonn. Twenty-nine officers were wounded, two of them having been stabbed, and more than 100 people were arrested. On Monday, a 25-year-old man was arrested and charged with attempted murder in the knife attacks.

Ralf Jäger, interior minister for the state, promised that there would be "severe consequences," adding that he would "join the federal government in exploring all legal possibilities for countering these extremists." The police president in Bonn, Ursula Brohl-Sowa, spoke of an "explosion of violence like we haven't seen for some time."

The Pro-NRW march in Bonn consisted of just over two dozen people, but some 500 to 600 counter-demonstrators also gathered, including, according to police estimates, some 200 Salafists who had travelled to Bonn from across the country. Several hundred police were also present to keep the two groups separated.

Kolbe said the march was peaceful until right-wing populists began showing their anti-Islam caricatures, including one by Kurt Westergaard, the Danish cartoonist who created one of the Muhammad drawings which set off global unrest in 2006. One pro-NRW member, Kolbe told SPIEGEL ONLINE, climbed onto the shoulders of a comrade in order to hold the placard above a police vehicle positioned so as to block the view. "The Pro-NRW people very deliberately provoked," Kolbe said.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-right-wing-populists-provoke-salafist-violence-in-bonn-a-831810.html

[TheParliamentarian]

actually i do, i have a blog on the far right in europe and that is why i am here and asking about the pro-nrw...  id also like to know if how the NPD are doing...

[Vasall des Midas]

The stabber (who has confessed. And is a Hessian. ) fits the cliche bill of such people quite well. German born Turkish citizen; a hardened hooligan with an arm's length criminal record from his teens who's been out of trouble the past five years thanks to finding Allah. Yet the conversion only goes so far; these people have a grievance and an aggressive demeanor (and are very much a post-2001 phenomenon. Or rather post-post-2001-islamophobia phenomenon.)

[Tender Branson]

actually i do, i have a blog on the far right in europe and that is why i am here and asking about the pro-nrw...  id also like to know if how the NPD are doing...

For results, check this:

http://karten.wahlergebnisse.nrw.de/WahlClient

[Vasall des Midas]

actually i do, i have a blog on the far right in europe and that is why i am here and asking about the pro-nrw...  id also like to know if how the NPD are doing...

In both the constituencies wholly in, pro NRW and NPD are the two strongest "others", but not by much and not doing at all well or any better than last time. They are not doing well enough to get any sort of mainstream media attention, so official results are all I have.