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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2012, 09:36:27 pm »
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Freedom Laws.

A Huey Long lover likes right to work!?!?

I generally don't like unions.

Why not? (Not trying to be bellicose, I'm genuinely curious.)

I think they've largely outlived their usefulness (and they haven't done anything for me personally).

Also, I don't like how they went after Blanche Lincoln in 2010.
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2012, 09:38:33 pm »
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Also, I don't like how they went after Blanche Lincoln in 2010.

That's an utterly pathetic reason to hold a position on anything.
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2012, 09:40:03 pm »
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Freedom laws.
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2012, 10:02:11 pm »
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Also, I don't like how they went after Blanche Lincoln in 2010.

That's an utterly pathetic reason to hold a position on anything.

She's in my family....Its kinda personal.
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2012, 10:04:31 pm »
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Also, I don't like how they went after Blanche Lincoln in 2010.

That's an utterly pathetic reason to hold a position on anything.

She's in my family....Its kinda personal.

That's why I dislike the current Democratic State Auditor of Massachsuetts. The Republican candidate who she beat, somewhat unfairly, is my cousin.
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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2012, 11:07:12 pm »
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Also, I don't like how they went after Blanche Lincoln in 2010.

That's an utterly pathetic reason to hold a position on anything.

She's in my family....Its kinda personal.

That's why I dislike the current Democratic State Auditor of Massachsuetts. The Republican candidate who she beat, somewhat unfairly, is my cousin.

Somewhat unfairly?  She's not even a CPA!  (In addition to being a tax cheat* and employing a convicted Satanic ritual murderer on her campaign staff).  Goes to show you how overrun this shivhole of a state is with idiotic zombies.

*Which I only mind in hypocrites.
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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2012, 11:39:38 pm »
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I say 'somewhat unfairly' because I thought that Mary's tales of what a bad candidate Bump was might be overblown, since she's not an objective source (for that matter, neither are you, but you're a little more objective than Mary is). I was out of the commonwealth for most of the campaign.

Most Massachusetts politicians are awful but the same is true of pretty much everywhere else, you must admit.
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2012, 12:03:36 am »
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I say 'somewhat unfairly' because I thought that Mary's tales of what a bad candidate Bump was might be overblown, since she's not an objective source (for that matter, neither are you, but you're a little more objective than Mary is). I was out of the commonwealth for most of the campaign.

Most Massachusetts politicians are awful but the same is true of pretty much everywhere else, you must admit.

Oh, of course, in fact even most Massachusetts Republicans are either despicable neocons, or insufferably-smug WASPy Rockefeller types, with a minority of ultra-Catholic moralfags (Connaughton was of the last variety, IIRC).  However, there's rarely been a more objectively large gulf between two candidates, and for a non-ideological position, as Connaughton-Bump.  Luckily for us, the state auditor doesn't really do anything, so Ms. Bump can be as incompetent and unqualfied for her position as she likes.

Except for Governor all other elections for statewide offices should probably be non-partisan.  Certainly Auditor should.
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2012, 12:10:43 am »
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I say 'somewhat unfairly' because I thought that Mary's tales of what a bad candidate Bump was might be overblown, since she's not an objective source (for that matter, neither are you, but you're a little more objective than Mary is). I was out of the commonwealth for most of the campaign.

Most Massachusetts politicians are awful but the same is true of pretty much everywhere else, you must admit.

Oh, of course, in fact even most Massachusetts Republicans are either despicable neocons, or insufferably-smug WASPy Rockefeller types, with a minority of ultra-Catholic moralfags (Connaughton was of the last variety, IIRC).  However, there's rarely been a more objectively large gulf between two candidates, and for a non-ideological position, as Connaughton-Bump.  Luckily for us, the state auditor doesn't really do anything, so Ms. Bump can be as incompetent and unqualfied for her position as she likes.

Mary's actually a combination of the second and third varieties you mention here. She's considerably less moralfaggy in that sense than the fact that she's an Italian Catholic might suggest. Although she's still somewhat moralfaggy relative to a lot of the other people in our family.

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Except for Governor all other elections for statewide offices should probably be non-partisan.  Certainly Auditor should.

I completely agree, of course.
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2012, 12:14:30 am »
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I recall hearing her name in relation to one of the gay marriage-banning ballot initiatives; am I correct in that?
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2012, 12:22:33 am »
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I don't recall. It's entirely possible, but as of now she really doesn't seem to particularly care about it. It's certainly possible that she freaked out about it when it originally happened. She's the sort of person who might before calming down about the whole thing.
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2012, 04:29:41 pm »
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They are Freedom Laws unequivocally. I don't oppose the idea of unions. It's that unions oppose letting  nonunion labor into the same shop and forced political contributions that I oppose.
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« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2012, 04:19:09 pm »
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Freedom laws.
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2012, 04:22:08 pm »
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If one does not have to work then why should they want that "right"? Some people just can not be happy!
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2012, 05:35:08 pm »
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How does the government have the right to regulate employment contracts?

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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2012, 09:45:09 am »
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How does the government have the right to regulate employment contracts?

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how does the government have the right to regulate property ownership?
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2012, 10:39:37 pm »
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How does the government have the right to regulate employment contracts?

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Under the Lochner decision it did not, but that time has long since passed, and how sad it is.
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