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Topic: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA) (Read 19204 times)
Ray Goldfield
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 14, 2012, 08:44:22 am »
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 14, 2012, 03:41:56 am
New York also has congressional primaries on the 26th.
Which have the potential to send the most radical politician in New York to Congress. Should be crazy.
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jfern
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 15, 2012, 02:12:37 am »
Quote from: Ray Goldfield on June 14, 2012, 08:44:22 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 14, 2012, 03:41:56 am
New York also has congressional primaries on the 26th.
Which have the potential to send the most radical politician in New York to Congress. Should be crazy.
Who's this?
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MilesC56
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Reply #327 on:
June 15, 2012, 02:19:41 am »
Quote from: Ray Goldfield on June 14, 2012, 08:44:22 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 14, 2012, 03:41:56 am
New York also has congressional primaries on the 26th.
Which have the potential to send the most radical politician in New York to Congress. Should be crazy.
Paladino isn't running for Congress.
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smoltchanov
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Reply #328 on:
June 15, 2012, 05:37:55 am »
Quote from: MilesC56 on June 15, 2012, 02:19:41 am
Quote from: Ray Goldfield on June 14, 2012, 08:44:22 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 14, 2012, 03:41:56 am
New York also has congressional primaries on the 26th.
Which have the potential to send the most radical politician in New York to Congress. Should be crazy.
Paladino isn't running for Congress.
I think - they speak about Charles Barron))))
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 15, 2012, 09:31:50 am »
Charles Barron's major
interest
seems to involve Israel, and Jews in general (
e.g.
, they perambulate in a possessive and arrogant way). He seems as fond of both of them as Cynthia McKinney.
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Sheliak5
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 15, 2012, 11:44:49 am »
Barron is a scary guy, and this is coming from a lapsed Jew who is about as anti-Israel as can be. Jeffries on the other hand is one of my favorite candidates this year. That was a really douchey move by Ed Towns to endorse Barron.
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Ray Goldfield
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Reply #331 on:
June 15, 2012, 02:46:55 pm »
Quote from: Torie on June 15, 2012, 09:31:50 am
Charles Barron's major
interest
seems to involve Israel, and Jews in general (
e.g.
, they perambulate in a possessive and arrogant way). He seems as fond of both of them as Cynthia McKinney.
He also called Khadafy one of his personal heroes.
The guy's a complete lunatic. Definitely comparable to Cynthia McKinney.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Reply #332 on:
June 15, 2012, 09:37:57 pm »
From the Wikipedia article on Barron:
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On September 12, 2002, Barron was host to Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe at New York City Hall, praising him as a liberator for Black Africans in then-Rhodesia
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In November 2011, Barron voiced enthusiastic support for Colonel Muammar Qaddafi, and claimed that he did not kill Libyans during their uprising against his autocratic dictatorship.[90]
“Out there, they don’t know that Qaddafi was our brother.” He dismissed claims of Qaddafi’s brutality. “People say ‘Didn’t he kill all those people?’ I say, ‘I don’t know anything. The man was a freedom fighter.” He gestured to a poster of a young Qaddafi. “Can you imagine what this man had to go through?”... He asked them to chant “Long live Muammar Qaddafi.”
In an interview in 2008, Barron voiced support for African dictator Robert Mugabe, who has committed serious atrocities in Zimbabwe and discriminated against his people.[91]:
In the year 2000, when he said one farm, one farmer, he was vilified,” Barron told me. “For 20 years they loved Mugabe because they didn’t take the land from the whites.” In South Africa, he goes on, whites “still own 80 to 90 percent of the land. That’s why they like Mandela. That’s why they like Bishop Tutu. They let the whites keep the land.” As for the violence, Barron said that he had seen no evidence tying the government to the attacks on opposition supporters; that there were bad things done by opposition supporters, too; and that none of the reports on what’s happening in Zimbabwe were objective.
In 2002, Barron invited Mugabe to City Hall and greeted him there.
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In November 2011, Barron said that he opposed same sex marriage. "I believe simply in an institution of marriage between a man and a woman." He also said, "My wife and I believe that. We support every other thing regarding gay rights and we support everything but the marriage thing. We don't want to have people impose their values or beliefs on us and we're not imposing ours on you."
HP big time. Good thing the whole state establishment is lining up against him (even if the outgoing incumbent isn't.)
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Sibboleth
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Reply #333 on:
June 16, 2012, 06:03:18 am »
Quote from: Ray Goldfield on June 15, 2012, 02:46:55 pm
The guy's a complete lunatic. Definitely comparable to Cynthia McKinney.
I don't know, she did have a certain drug addled charm.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 16, 2012, 11:54:17 am »
I'm a little vague on exactly how this works so a poster more familiar with NY is welcome to correct me if this is wrong, but my understanding is that Hakeem Jeffries already has the Working Families line and could thus continue a general election campaign in the event of a primary loss to Barron.
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Sheliak5
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 17, 2012, 09:52:15 pm »
Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on June 16, 2012, 11:54:17 am
I'm a little vague on exactly how this works so a poster more familiar with NY is welcome to correct me if this is wrong, but my understanding is that Hakeem Jeffries already has the Working Families line and could thus continue a general election campaign in the event of a primary loss to Barron.
That's correct. He could and probably would still be on the ballot, albeit not with a (D) next to his name.
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Linus Van Pelt
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Reply #336 on:
June 22, 2012, 09:21:43 pm »
And just in case we thought this election season was a little short on the weird:
David Duke endorses Charles Barron.
"In a race for Congress between an anti-Zionist black activist and a black activist who is a bought and paid for Zionist Uncle Tom, I’ll take the anti-Zionist any day."
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 22, 2012, 09:22:54 pm »
And Hatch will thrash Liljenquist the same day, so a return to regularly scheduled, sane programming.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 23, 2012, 10:30:42 am »
Quote from: Romney/Ryan 2012! on June 22, 2012, 09:22:54 pm
And Hatch will thrash Liljenquist the same day, so a return to regularly scheduled, sane programming.
Correct.
In case anyone had doubt, BYU came out with a poll today with Hatch up big, well over 50%. They did a bunch of hypothetical scenarios on how undecideds would break, and his average margin of victory was 29 points. Don't expect Liljenquist to even hit 40%.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 23, 2012, 08:47:38 pm »
Quote from: Tmthforu94 on June 23, 2012, 10:30:42 am
Quote from: Romney/Ryan 2012! on June 22, 2012, 09:22:54 pm
And Hatch will thrash Liljenquist the same day, so a return to regularly scheduled, sane programming.
Correct.
In case anyone had doubt, BYU came out with a poll today with Hatch up big, well over 50%. They did a bunch of hypothetical scenarios on how undecideds would break, and his average margin of victory was 29 points. Don't expect Liljenquist to even hit 40%.
Oh well, it would have been too crazy if the second most senior Senate Republican joined the most senior Senate Republican in being primaried.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 06:05:05 am »
The "wow, look at that car wreck!" part of me is really hoping for a Barron victory tonight.
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Ray Goldfield
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 08:26:05 am »
Quote from: To be born again. on June 26, 2012, 06:05:05 am
The "wow, look at that car wreck!" part of me is really hoping for a Barron victory tonight.
Jeffries will probably win in the fall on the WFP line anyway, with bigger turnout.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 01:38:45 pm »
Today, Utahns head to the polls to decide who leads their government next year. It's General Election Day!
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Quote from: Ray Goldfield on June 26, 2012, 08:26:05 am
Quote from: To be born again. on June 26, 2012, 06:05:05 am
The "wow, look at that car wreck!" part of me is really hoping for a Barron victory tonight.
Jeffries will probably win in the fall on the WFP line anyway, with bigger turnout.
I seriously doubt he'd win without the Democratic line. But in reality, he'll probably win today anyway, so it doesn't matter. He may even win by double digits.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 03:25:49 pm »
My father voted for Wendy Long for NY Senate. Upset over Turner? LOL
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Ray Goldfield
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 04:29:39 pm »
Quote from: To be born again. on June 26, 2012, 02:36:51 pm
Quote from: Ray Goldfield on June 26, 2012, 08:26:05 am
Quote from: To be born again. on June 26, 2012, 06:05:05 am
The "wow, look at that car wreck!" part of me is really hoping for a Barron victory tonight.
Jeffries will probably win in the fall on the WFP line anyway, with bigger turnout.
I seriously doubt he'd win without the Democratic line. But in reality, he'll probably win today anyway, so it doesn't matter. He may even win by double digits.
With five months to make everyone completely aware of who Charles Barron is? A slice of toast could win in a big-turnout election, as long as it wasn't Republican bread.
But yeah, probably. I don't think this'll be as close as all that. Rangel's race is going to be much more interesting.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 04:34:43 pm »
I just voted for Joel Tyner (a OWS friendly, anti-fracking Democrat who chewed out Obama over Afghanistan) over Julian Schreibman (a Moderate Hero Democrat, who will probably win... although to be fair he is still significantly to the left of someone like Scott Murphy or the House version of Kirsten Gillibrand). This was in NY-19 (formerly NY-20) which is represented by Chris Gibson. That was the only race on my ballot today.
Is it weird that I'm actually pretty excited about seeing the results of several of these races tonight, btw?
Tender, gives us some good links!
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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Quote from: xavier110 on June 26, 2012, 03:25:49 pm
My father voted for Wendy Long for NY Senate. Upset over Turner? LOL
One of my best friends is a family friend of her's and she's working for the campaign
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/26 - SC runoff)
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June 26, 2012, 07:34:07 pm »
Runoffs for both parties in SC's 7th Congressional District, plus a few local runoffs as well.
WYFF:
http://www.wyff4.com/news/politics/South-Carolina-Runoff-Election-results/-/9324082/15195356/-/bw685kz/-/index.html
SC SEC:
http://www.enr-scvotes.org/SC/40277/89216/en/summary.html
WYFF has faster results, so far the State Election Commission has none.
With half the precincts in, Tinubu has a 73-27 lead over Brittain in a pointless Democratic runoff, while on the Republican side Horry County Council Chairman Tom Rice has a 58-42 lead over ex-Lt. Gov Andre Bauer. Looks like Tom Rice will be going to Washington this January.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA)
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June 26, 2012, 07:53:47 pm »
Politico will be covering all of the results on their front page tonight:
http://www.politico.com/
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