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argentarius
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #575 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:27:51 am »
Paul's gone under 20%. Does that mean anything with regards to threshold? He's doing very badly in Honolulu. Without that he could be winning.
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jfern
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #576 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:30:21 am »
Romney gets 46%, still pretty bad for him for a state where the Republicans are relatively moderate, there are hardly any Christians, and around 20% of the Christians are Mormons.
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #577 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:30:22 am »
It says 99% reporting but there are likely more results outstanding -- the vote total just hit CNN's estimated turnout, which was evidently too low.
CNN just called it for Romney (brave call)
Could still be >50% Romney. It's mandate enough, not that the media will actually care -- a non-close win is a win.
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Lief
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #578 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:32:25 am »
Hawaii doesn't have a threshold, so he should still get some delegates. AP hasn't updated CD numbers in a while, but the statewide delegates currently break down:
Romney: 6
Santorum: 3
Paul: 2
However, a small shift to Paul would result in 5-3-3, so we'll see what happens.
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argentarius
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #579 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:33:54 am »
How much of a shift are we talking about? I think he should do very well in Kauai and Hawaii counties 5 remaining precincts.
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ottermax
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #580 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:35:23 am »
Can a caucus be determined by one precinct?
The District 46/47 precinct caucus (don't ask me why Hawaii has such large precincts...) results:
Gingrich - 9
Paul - 44
Romney - 1027
Santorum - 28
This district is of course home to BYU-Hawaii...
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #581 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:35:28 am »
Quote from: Ben Kenobi on March 14, 2012, 03:27:45 am
No mandate for Romney in Hawaii.
He won, and hence he has a "mandate".
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #582 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:35:40 am »
Does Hawaii really have few Christians? I just thought it had very few evangelicals.
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redcommander
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #583 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:38:00 am »
Seriously? He creamed Santorum by 20% points. I don't know why some of you aren't thinking that's a pretty solid mandate considering we have a four man race. BTW, Santorum didn't exactly win a blowout in the South, so I don't know why certain people think this is a game changer.
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #584 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:39:18 am »
Current Hawaii caucus results without Mormonia:
Romney 2,203 (36%)
Santorum 1,814 (30%)
Paul 1,279 (21%)
Gingrich 789 (13%)
Early Kauai results are a Paulslide.
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #585 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:39:49 am »
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He won, and hence he has a "mandate".
ABR wins Hawaii, yet another state for ABR.
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htmldon
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #586 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:40:05 am »
so now Ron Paul is winning 2 of 4 counties while not reaching 20%
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #587 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:41:28 am »
Quote from: redcommander on March 14, 2012, 03:38:00 am
Seriously? He creamed Santorum by over 20% points. I don't know why some of you aren't thinking that's a pretty solid mandate considering we have a four man race.
Presumably he thinks that Lincoln, Wilson, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, etc didn't have mandates either.
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Lief
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #588 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:42:15 am »
Statewide: R5-6, S3, P2-3
CD1: R2, S1
CD2: R2, S0-1, P0-1
Best case Romney scenario is 10 delegates, worst case is 9. Santorum should get either 4 or 5 and Paul should get between 2 and 4.
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #589 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:43:40 am »
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Presumably he thinks that Lincoln, Wilson, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, etc didn't have mandates either.
Mandate > 50.
9-5-4 on delegates? That's a victory for Santorum and Paul, if they nullify Romney in HI.
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jfern
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #590 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:48:02 am »
So Ron Paul nearly won every county that didn't have the oldest Mormon temple in the world outside of Utah.
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Lief
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #591 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:56:16 am »
Current delegate totals with 38 precincts reporting:
Romney: 9
Santorum: 5
Paul: 3
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #592 on:
March 14, 2012, 03:57:22 am »
Great 'victory' Mitt.
He did better in Mississippi and Alabama than he did in Hawaii outside of Honolulu.
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RBH
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Re: March 13 Results
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March 14, 2012, 04:30:29 am »
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argentarius
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #594 on:
March 14, 2012, 05:04:12 am »
18.3, is that enough for 3 Paul delegates?
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Lief
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #595 on:
March 14, 2012, 05:12:12 am »
Final delegate totals should be, depending on who gets second in CD2 (currently it's Rick):
R 9
S 5 (or 4)
P 3 (or 4)
Romney just misses a 6th statewide delegate, to the benefit of Paul.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #596 on:
March 14, 2012, 07:35:56 am »
Are results available for the MS Dem primary? Uncommitted won enough in Alabama to get delegates, I was curious the same happened in Mississippi.
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J. J.
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #597 on:
March 14, 2012, 07:55:56 am »
Santorum is the ABR candidate.
Romney, surprisingly, gets a plurality of 6 delegates over Santorum
Now, will there be a projection for MO? That could be a win for Santorum.
PR seems solid for Romney, but there is a chance of a Santorum victory.
Then there is IL.
To break through, Santorum has to win one, in terms of delegates.
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #598 on:
March 14, 2012, 07:59:21 am »
Quote from: J. J. on March 14, 2012, 07:55:56 am
Santorum is the ABR candidate.
Romney, surprisingly, gets a plurality of 6 delegates over Santorum
Now, will there be a projection for MO? That could be a win for Santorum.
PR seems solid for Romney, but there is a chance of a Santorum victory.
Then there is IL.
To break through, Santorum has to win one, in terms of delegates.
See you next week.
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MilesC56
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Re: March 13 Results
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Reply #599 on:
March 14, 2012, 10:29:59 am »
I tried to calculate the results for MS-04. It pretty much comes down to the precincts in Clarke county. Excluding all of Clarke from the results, its Gingrich by 37 votes. Including all if Clarke, it Santorum wins the district by 7 votes.
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