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Nathalie Arthaud (Lutte ouvrière/Workers' Struggle)   -0 (0%)
François Bayrou (Mouvement Démocrate/Democratic Movement)   -4 (6.1%)
Jacques Cheminade (Solidarité et Progrès/Solidarity and Progress)   -0 (0%)
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (Debout la République/Arise the Republic)   -5 (7.6%)
François Hollande (Parti Socialiste/Socialist Party)   -20 (30.3%)
Eva Joly (Europe Écologie–Les Verts/Europe Ecology–The Greens)   -5 (7.6%)
Marine Le Pen (Front National/National Front)   -5 (7.6%)
Jean-Luc Mélenchon (Front Gauche/Left Front)   -15 (22.7%)
Philippe Poutou (Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste/New Anticapitalist Party)   -1 (1.5%)
Nicolas Sarkozy (Union pour un Mouvement Populaire/Union for a Popular Movement)   -11 (16.7%)
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« on: March 25, 2012, 01:15:14 pm »
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Qui a votre vote?

Voting closes here on the April 22nd. I'll do a run-off for whoever comes first and second here on Atlas (if we need one, naturally).
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 01:21:42 pm »
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Thanks, we needed a version with all the candidates.

You guys all know who gets my vote. Wink
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 01:27:57 pm »
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Francois Hollande -whatever else I may disagree with him on, I agree with him on this one important issue: that to strengthen the euro (and the European Union as a whole), they are going to have to move beyond austerity-only and instead move on to more growth-promoting measures.   
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 04:28:13 pm »
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Dupont-Aignan, I guess. I haven't studied him much, but he seems like the most Libertarian-type candidate.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 04:37:14 pm »
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Thanks, we needed a version with all the candidates.

You guys all know who gets my vote. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 05:04:58 pm »
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Vote Mélenchon in the first round, then switch to Hollande.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 05:58:58 pm »
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Sarko.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 06:17:16 pm »
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Not sure which of these joke candidates will get my joke vote.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 04:34:50 am »
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Not sure which of these joke candidates will get my joke vote.

If you want to push the joke to its logical conclusions, you should go for Cheminade. Grin
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 06:43:15 am »
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Marine. If I we're French, I'll vote for her and her dad everytime they run.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 07:04:39 am »
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Is there any candidate that is anti-EU, but not a fascist?
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 08:14:23 am »
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first round: Joly
second: Hollande
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 08:19:08 am »
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If we have a tie for second place, i'll find an online random name generator thing.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 04:11:15 pm »
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Is there any candidate that is anti-EU, but not a fascist?
Some of the commies might be.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2012, 03:09:00 pm »
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Mélenchon, I suppose. I'd rather not vote for the EU candidate.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2012, 04:13:47 pm »
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Is there any candidate that is anti-EU, but not a fascist?
Some of the commies might be.
Dupont-Aignan is the closest pick, as Mélenchon is less anti-EU than him, in fact (and contrary to what many people think).
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012, 04:15:22 pm »
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Atlas is as leftist as ever, eh ? Grin

Well, as Boutin isn't here anymore, as Morin (oh, I hate him, but, well... he is close to my views) isn't here either, then Sarkozy has, of course, my vote.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2012, 06:27:44 pm »
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Is there any candidate that is anti-EU, but not a fascist?
Some of the commies might be.
Dupont-Aignan is the closest pick, as Mélenchon is less anti-EU than him, in fact (and contrary to what many people think).
Well yeah Dupont-Aignan is who I went for here, though admittedly, I didnt know what his EU postion was when I voted.
As for commies I was thinking of some of the trot/other non important commies more than Mélenchon when I said that, though I have no idea on their EU views either.
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2012, 03:34:30 am »
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A Hollande / Mélenchon runoff would be an awesome thing to see IRL. Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2012, 11:39:07 am »
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At this point, I'm probably going to vote for Mélenchon as a half-joke, half-serious vote in the first round and, at the rate things are going with dumb and dumber, probably 'be creative' with the ballots in the runoff.

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At this point, I'm probably going to vote for Mélenchon as a half-joke, half-serious vote in the first round and, at the rate things are going with dumb and dumber, probably 'be creative' with the ballots in the runoff.

The 'half-serious' part of the vote being a sincere tribute to Georges Marchais?
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2012, 12:59:38 pm »
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At this point, I'm probably going to vote for Mélenchon as a half-joke, half-serious vote in the first round and, at the rate things are going with dumb and dumber, probably 'be creative' with the ballots in the runoff.

The 'half-serious' part of the vote being a sincere tribute to Georges Marchais?

I don't understand all this love for Georges Marchais. Sure, he was a pretty good speaker and a mostly honest person, but he was also a stubborn party hack who maintained an outdated party line despite its becoming sillier and sillier every day, a quite petty politician in his relationships with other parties (yes, Mitterrand screwed him, but Marchais would have done the same had he been more clever) and whose attitude has harmed the left plenty of times.

Compare with a man like Berlinguer, who was charismatic but also intelligent, had a forceful, original, principled but not dogmatic vision of communism, a project for the future and had distanced from the soviet failure even before it had been exposed as such. It explains why the PCF became such a joke and why the PCI remained so powerful (until, of course, it committed hara-kiri).
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The answer is simple: everyone loves a clown.
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2012, 12:23:12 pm »
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LOL, they're almost tied now.
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