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John Quincy Adams   -10 (18.5%)
Ulysses S. Grant   -4 (7.4%)
Rutherford Hayes   -0 (0%)
Chester A. Arthur   -5 (9.3%)
William Howard Taft   -4 (7.4%)
Richard Nixon   -11 (20.4%)
Other (state)   -20 (37%)
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« on: April 04, 2012, 04:54:59 pm »
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I've taken a handful of presidents who were either important or made some important reforms, yet are either looked at unfavorably or ignored. I thought about putting Wilson, but he's overrated by historians and underrated by the Internet, so it balances out. Cleveland was on the shortlist, but he actually is ranked okay on most presidental rankings. Harding is somewhat underrated IMO (he did pardon Debs), but still sucked.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 04:58:11 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 05:07:55 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 06:09:52 pm »
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James K Polk. I mean, his presidency literally shaped modern America, AND shaped its culture. And he did it all in 4 years. Not bad for Young Hickory.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 06:46:15 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 06:46:37 pm »
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Nixon.

Carter, to some degree.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 07:34:00 pm »
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Cleveland, but he does get credit from Libertarians on alot of issues. Over all, John Tyler.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 08:06:50 pm »
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Out of the poll, I voted for my man JQA due to my personal bias towards the Adamses. I'd have to say Polk though. I don't recall him being on the poll but if he was, my mistake.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 08:16:43 pm »
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My homeslices JQA and Grant.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 08:30:04 pm »
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Many of the pre-Civil War Presidents, especially Van Buren and Tyler, as well as Warren Harding would be good candidates.  Of that list, Grant or Hayes.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 08:36:43 pm »
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Post-1900: Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 11:43:12 pm »
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Chester Arthur.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2012, 04:50:35 pm »
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John Quincy Adams is my pick, but Arthur, Nixon, and Carter are all good choices too.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2012, 06:12:45 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2012, 06:37:20 pm »
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 09:33:18 pm »
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I like Hayes for this, but would prefer Ford. Grant works too.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2012, 10:06:45 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2012, 08:07:26 pm »
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I mean, not even libertarians give the guy his due. He is just forgotten and that is a real loss both for the Liberty Movement and hairstylists.
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 08:58:23 pm »
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Quote from: Rooney on April 06, 2012, 08:07:26 pm
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I had a feeling you'd be one to post this.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 09:05:30 pm »
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Quote from: Cathcon on April 06, 2012, 08:58:23 pm
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I had a feeling you'd be one to post this.

I beat him to it.
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2012, 09:06:49 pm »
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I had a feeling you'd be one to post this.

I beat him to it.

Haven't read through the entire thing with great detail. Tongue However, he's made his love for Marty quite clear.
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Many of the pre-Civil War Presidents, especially Van Buren and Tyler, as well as Warren Harding would be good candidates.  Of that list, Grant or Hayes.

...and here we are.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2012, 09:09:45 pm »
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Also, Wormy, why would you like Hayes? If I recall correctly, he got super mad in his later years about the gap 'twixt the rich & poor and wanted a bill to limit inheritance to a certain amount and have the government take the rest and distribute it to whomever it pleased. I wouldn't think of you as the type to like him.
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2012, 09:11:43 pm »
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Also, Wormy, why would you like Hayes? If I recall correctly, he got super made in his later years about the gap 'twixt the rich & poor and wanted a bill to limit inheritance to a certain amount and have the government take the rest and distribute it to whomever it pleased. I wouldn't think of you as the type to like him.

I'm more concerned about their actual acts as President than their philosophies.
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