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« on: May 02, 2012, 02:17:19 pm »
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Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 02:46:09 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 05:17:41 pm »
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I'm still hoping for Moscovici. Despite the despicable slanders the right is trying to spread about him, he is still the most competent for this job. The clarity of his thought, his knowledge of issues and his staunch but reasonable ideological positioning make him exactly what we need at the moment.

I'd rather avoid discussing about that until that other retard is still in place, however. Tempting the fate is never a good thing.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 05:25:41 pm »
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I'd rather avoid discussing about that until that other retard is still in place, however. Tempting the fate is never a good thing.

Hollande will lose because of this thread!
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 05:31:10 pm »
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I'd rather avoid discussing about that until that other retard is still in place, however. Tempting the fate is never a good thing.

Hollande will lose because of this thread!

When every 30 seconds you can't help reminding yourself that Sarko could actually pull trough (whether 5%, 1% or 0.1%, the likelihood is irrelevant) and thinking what it would mean for the future of France, you can't discuss serenely about such matters.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 02:18:48 pm »
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OK, Poison Dwarf is finished now.

Now on to Prime Minister-stakes!
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 07:25:09 pm »
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Perhaps Moscovici, but the most probable choice right now is Jean-Marc Ayrault, mayor of Nantes, apparently.

No Aubry, nor Montebourg, obviously.
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 10:35:37 am »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 11:16:41 am »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 
The Left has a solid and consistent lead in the polls, so thats a fairly safe assumption. They need to screw things up big time to loose.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 11:17:37 am »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 
The Left has a solid and consistent lead in the polls, so thats a fairly safe assumption. They need to screw things up big time to loose.

Sarkozy is more(?!?) popular than his party?
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 11:36:23 am »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 

Based on past experiences, I'd expect the left to win. But after yesterday's results, my philosophy is "you never know".
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2012, 02:02:57 pm »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 
The Left has a solid and consistent lead in the polls, so thats a fairly safe assumption. They need to screw things up big time to loose.

Sarkozy is more(?!?) popular than his party?
He didn't lose by that much... His party could lose by more.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2012, 03:33:23 pm »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 
The Left has a solid and consistent lead in the polls, so thats a fairly safe assumption. They need to screw things up big time to loose.

Sarkozy is more(?!?) popular than his party?
He didn't lose by that much... His party could lose by more.

Exactly my point.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 03:26:50 am »
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I think it will be Aubry or Ayrault.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 07:37:20 am »
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Well, the convention is that new President is appointing his Prime Minister immediately after taking office. Currently presidential and parliamentary elections basically coincide (before it happend, it was usual for President to dissolve parliament after taking office, as Mitterrand did in 1981 and 1988, thus winning a majority for his Prime Ministers; Chirac did not dissolve parliament in 1995, which was a huge mistake, that led to a five-years long cohabitation in 1997).

Until now, voters were always confirming presidential government during parliamentary elections sheluded set after presidential. 

Btw, I understand Chirac's reluctance to dissolve parliament in 1995, since his presidential majority (RPP-UFD and smaller stuff) had 485 seats, compared to 91 left seats (including 53 PS's deputies). Yet it was still a mistake in long term.

I think, as long as parliamentary elections are going to take place shortly after presidentials, we won't see another cohabitation.
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2012, 04:33:24 pm »
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Is it safe to assume there will be a majority in the national assembly after the June elections that will in fact elect a prime minister of Hollande's choosing? 
The Left has a solid and consistent lead in the polls, so that's a fairly safe assumption. They need to screw things up big time to loose.

Sarkozy is more(?!?) popular than his party?
He didn't lose by that much... His party could lose by more.

Exactly my point.
I would put it another way. Sarkozy is an excellent campaigner, that has always been his main strength. Its not so much a question of popularity per se, but more of raw ability to destroy the other guy (he didn't do it this time because the odds where too much against him, but he came close).
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2012, 03:25:32 am »
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We'll know in a few hours.

Most probably, it will be Ayrault.
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2012, 03:32:34 am »
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Hollande to be sworn in right now.

Watching the N24 livestream.

PS: He already has the nuclear bomb codes.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2012, 03:36:16 am »
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Hollande to fly to Berlin and meet Merkel in the evening.

It's "Merkollande" then instead of "Merkozy" ... Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2012, 05:08:43 am »
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Hollande to be sworn in right now.

Watching the N24 livestream.

PS: He already has the nuclear bomb codes.

Does French protocol actually required any oath, or it's just "here: nuclear codes, Legion of Honor, have fun, dude!"
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2012, 05:27:22 am »
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Hollande to be sworn in right now.

Watching the N24 livestream.

PS: He already has the nuclear bomb codes.

Does French protocol actually required any oath, or it's just "here: nuclear codes, Legion of Honor, have fun, dude!"

No oath, but a series of little ceremonies (receveiving the Légion d'Honneur, the 21 cannon shots, the parade from the Elysée to Arc de Triomphe, etc...).
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2012, 05:31:00 am »
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Pretty much confirmed to be Ayrault.

He could have chosen somebody who isn't against reunification. I guess I won't be voting PS in the first round then.
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2012, 05:35:12 am »
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Pretty much confirmed to be Ayrault.

He could have chosen somebody who isn't against reunification. I guess I won't be voting PS in the first round then.

Reunification with what ?
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2012, 05:50:39 am »
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Pretty much confirmed to be Ayrault.

He could have chosen somebody who isn't against reunification. I guess I won't be voting PS in the first round then.

Reunification with what ?

Brittany, of course. He's always been one of the few of Socialists from Loire-Atlantique to oppose it, when most have supported it.

It's a stupid reason, but since the choice of PM is pretty symbolic and useless, I chose a symbolic and useless reason. Of course, the mere fact that the UMP candidate here is Fredo Lefebvre should force anybody who has graduated grade 1 to vote for the PS candidate; even though there is probably a chance that Fredo won't even make the runoff given how the right here is divided beyond recognition.
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2012, 05:58:36 am »
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Pretty much confirmed to be Ayrault.

He could have chosen somebody who isn't against reunification. I guess I won't be voting PS in the first round then.

Reunification with what ?

Brittany, of course. He's always been one of the few of Socialists from Loire-Atlantique to oppose it, when most have supported it.

It's a stupid reason, but since the choice of PM is pretty symbolic and useless, I chose a symbolic and useless reason. Of course, the mere fact that the UMP candidate here is Fredo Lefebvre should force anybody who has graduated grade 1 to vote for the PS candidate; even though there is probably a chance that Fredo won't even make the runoff given how the right here is divided beyond recognition.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I see... So typical Hash. Wink
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