Petition to unban Straha!

[Joe Republic]

OK well point remains that Dave did not ban the main account.

Which he should have.  And would have too, if he had been in any way involved in day to day forum activity.

Anyway, Dave has abdicated his role as chief moderator in favor of Nym, who arguably has the power to retroactively overrule Dave on certain moderation decisions.

You guys talk about 'precedent' and 'statute of limitations' like this is an actual court of law.  Not only is this a private internet forum with its own set of rules, but it's just a freakin' internet forum.  Quit whining like he was a goddamn martyr.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

So if Straha had begun regularly posting again once his mod review expired and continued to be a regular poster from thereon it would be acceptable to ban him as soon as Nym was granted the modadmin powers?

[Joe Republic]

So if Straha had begun regularly posting again once his mod review expired and continued to be a regular poster from thereon it would be acceptable to ban him as soon as Nym was granted the modadmin powers?

Define 'regular poster'.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Someone who posts on a regular basis, as he did prior to his mod review.

[Joe Republic]

Ok, I thought so.  Given that it was Straha, who proved that three separate bouts of mod review (at exponentially increasing terms) did absolutely nothing to change his behavior, yeah of course.

[Oakvale]

I don't know Straha or much care about these masturbatory crusades some people go on every time there's a controversial banning, but it seems fairly obvious from reading this thread that Dave didn't want Straha around and, if he was active in moderating this place, would presuambly have banned him when he reappeared, non?

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Ok, I thought so.  Given that it was Straha, who proved that three separate bouts of mod review (at exponentially increasing terms) did absolutely nothing to change his behavior, yeah of course.

But he did upon his return, where I doubt he accumulated a single death point.

I don't know Straha or much care about these masturbatory crusades some people go on every time there's a controversial banning, but it seems fairly obvious from reading this thread that Dave didn't want Straha around and, if he was active in moderating this place, would presuambly have banned him when he reappeared, non?

So why did Dave not ban him? Remember that Dave did ban Deano earlier that year so he clearly had precedent for doing so.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

oakie you obviously don't realize Straha's influence on forum culture. It's up there with opebo's and Tweed's. Just for starters he popularized "epic fail" amongst the forum.

[Joe Republic]

Ok, I thought so.  Given that it was Straha, who proved that three separate bouts of mod review (at exponentially increasing terms) did absolutely nothing to change his behavior, yeah of course.

But he did upon his return, where I doubt he accumulated a single death point.

Personally I saw no evidence of that, and frankly I wouldn't have felt like waiting around to find out.  He was a pain in everyone's collective asses for like two years (including yours, hilariously enough).  He had it coming.

I don't know Straha or much care about these masturbatory crusades some people go on every time there's a controversial banning, but it seems fairly obvious from reading this thread that Dave didn't want Straha around and, if he was active in moderating this place, would presuambly have banned him when he reappeared, non?

So why did Dave not ban him? Remember that Dave did ban Deano earlier that year so he clearly had precedent for doing so.

"Precedent" again.

Need I remind you that Dave's approach to banning posters was scattershot, to put it charitably.  He didn't really know who 95% of posters were.

oakie you obviously don't realize Straha's influence on forum culture. It's up there with opebo's and Tweed's. Just for starters he popularized "epic fail" amongst the forum.

4chan memes eventually make their way to the rest of the internet, you know.

Also, LOL if you think any of those three sentences are helping your case.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Ok, I thought so.  Given that it was Straha, who proved that three separate bouts of mod review (at exponentially increasing terms) did absolutely nothing to change his behavior, yeah of course.

But he did upon his return, where I doubt he accumulated a single death point.

I don't know Straha or much care about these masturbatory crusades some people go on every time there's a controversial banning, but it seems fairly obvious from reading this thread that Dave didn't want Straha around and, if he was active in moderating this place, would presuambly have banned him when he reappeared, non?

So why did Dave not ban him? Remember that Dave did ban Deano earlier that year so he clearly had precedent for doing so.

Honestly, it's very possible it slipped his mind to go back to ban the account since it seemed like Straha wasn't posting from it anymore and wouldn't in the future.

[Pacific Councillor Big Wiggly Style]

I love learning about forum history.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

oakie you obviously don't realize Straha's influence on forum culture. It's up there with opebo's and Tweed's. Just for starters he popularized "epic fail" amongst the forum.

damn, bro, you SUCK as a public defender

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Look you can't say "Oh but Dave should've banned Straha anyway" or "He probably intended to but forgot". The latter doesn't look likely at all since he DID ban the socks, so why simply overlook the main Straha account? It makes no sense to wait until that account finished mod review and then ban it.

[Simfan34]

Internet forums are ultimately dictatorships of the domain holders. Remember that.

[© Tweed the Younger]

Internet forums are ultimately dictatorships of the domain holders. Remember that.

they are ultimately the product of the relations between the users/community and the ownership and its representatives.  Dave (partially) funds the site through contributions by not a few of us, at a most base level.  and beyond that the site's vitality has much to do with the membership; so such a hands-in-the-air fatalism is misplaced.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Look you can't say "Oh but Dave should've banned Straha anyway" or "He probably intended to but forgot". The latter doesn't look likely at all since he DID ban the socks, so why simply overlook the main Straha account? It makes no sense to wait until that account finished mod review and then ban it.

I'm not saying that we should ban him because he overlooked it.  I'm saying it's likely that he did overlook it (based on past actions he's taken with other sock accounts).  But until we have proof that that's what happened, I think Straha needs to be unbanned.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

 Dave (partially) funds the site through contributions by not a few of us, at a most base level...

come again?  members of this forum help Dave fund this site?   Is that why I haven't been promoted to modship, because I haven't greased the wheels?

[wormyguy]

Dave (partially) funds the site through contributions by not a few of us, at a most base level...

come again?  members of this forum help Dave fund this site?   Is that why I haven't been promoted to modship, because I haven't greased the wheels?

Dave sells more detailed election data that he's compiled.

[Communists For McCain]

Am I the only person who finds the man behind BIGBLACKCOCK defending the banning of Straha to be entirely hypocritical?

Seriously Joe, you have no MORAL basis to be saying that Straha deserved to be banned.  Especially three years later.

[Joe Republic]

I don't recall spamming the forum with useless 4chan memes for two years. 

[Grumps]

Whether I agree with Joe or not I always respect his position on these matters since he hardly wages jihad against posters.....

[BushKenya]

I know that we were comparing apples and oranges, but if jamespol and texasindy came back under their original accounts, everyone would be calling for their heads (and probably my head since I am friends with them off the forum).

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

I know that we were comparing apples and oranges, but if jamespol and texasindy came back under their original accounts, everyone would be calling for their heads (and probably my head since I am friends with them off the forum).

Both of their original accounts were banned.

[Joe Republic]

Texasindy wasn't banned.  She just wanted to be.

Which basically proves the scattershot and inconsistent nature of Dave's moderation*, which no longer exists under Nym.


* Whose primary interest is and always has been the site's content.  I've never blamed him for not getting so involved in the forum.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

I thought Dave did finally ban her after she went nuts with spamming the forum to have her account deleted.