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Question: will Democrats lose faith in PPP ?
Yes   -15 (55.6%)
No   -12 (44.4%)
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Tender Branson
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« on: June 05, 2012, 01:23:04 pm »
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Will they ?

I would.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 01:33:18 pm »
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I would think that if Walker loses by 7, they would lose their faith in PPP...given that every other pollster showed Walker losing by 6-8 except WAA.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 01:41:48 pm »
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Quote from: Tender Branson on June 05, 2012, 01:23:04 pm
Will they ?

I would.

First, while I believe that Walker will win, I doubt he will win with a margin of 15 points (or more).

Second, as long a PPP produces the results the lefties want, they will continue to blindly believe in those results (hey, I told them about R2K long before others figured it out).
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 01:47:14 pm »
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Walker is not winning by 15. 5-8 probably, almost certainly not double digits and definitely not 15. No WI governor has won by those sort of margins post-Thompson.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 02:28:13 pm »
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PPP basically showed Walker up 5 on Barrett, but they took the third candidate out for no reason other than making the race look closer.  Hackish move. 

Walker could maybe win by 10.  15 is pretty difficult considering the thousands of operatives from other states running around here.  I presume they have some effect boosting Barrett numbers. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 02:50:50 pm »
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LOL at people thinking this is going to be anything but close.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2012, 02:51:14 pm »
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PPP basically showed Walker up 5 on Barrett, but they took the third candidate out for no reason other than making the race look closer.  Hackish move. 

Walker could maybe win by 10.  15 is pretty difficult considering the thousands of operatives from other states running around here.  I presume they have some effect boosting Barrett numbers. 

No, they took the 3rd party candidate out for their final poll, because they don't want a repeat of the New York special election, where that unknown Socialist polled 5% or so and ended up with 0.5% PPP said then that they won't include useless Independent candidates in their final polls, because they always poll higher in the pre-election polls, but on election day the voters won't waste their votes on these joke candidates. That has nothing to do with "boosting Barrett's numbers".
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2012, 03:32:29 pm »
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If Walker won by 15, everyone would have blown the race epically except for WAA. Anyway, it's not gonna happen.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2012, 03:36:01 pm »
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Quote from: krazen1211 on June 05, 2012, 01:33:18 pm
I would think that if Walker loses by 7, they would lose their faith in PPP...given that every other pollster showed Walker losing by 6-8 except WAA.

What?
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2012, 03:55:51 pm »
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PPP will have egg on their face if Walker gets the 6, 7, 8 pt win that most non-Dem affiliated polls were calling for, as Krazen pointed out. And the closer the actual results come to We Ask America's poll results, the worse the sting for PPP.

For the record, I don't think Walker will win by 15 points. My prediction was 53-46%. And if Walker somehow does win by 15, the worst offender would have been Lake Research (49-49%), and not PPP.

I don't see how a 6 point Walker win would put any egg on PPP's face. They have him winning by 3. That's well within the margin of error for most polls. An 8 point Walker win would indicate an obviously less than stellar performance but it'd hardly be a disaster for them.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2012, 09:37:03 pm »
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Quote from: bawlexus91 on June 05, 2012, 01:47:52 pm
PPP will have egg on their face if Walker gets the 6, 7, 8 pt win that most non-Dem affiliated polls were calling for, as Krazen pointed out. And the closer the actual results come to We Ask America's poll results, the worse the sting for PPP.

For the record, I don't think Walker will win by 15 points. My prediction was 53-46%. And if Walker somehow does win by 15, the worst offender would have been Lake Research (49-49%), and not PPP.

I don't see how a 6 point Walker win would put any egg on PPP's face. They have him winning by 3. That's well within the margin of error for most polls. An 8 point Walker win would indicate an obviously less than stellar performance but it'd hardly be a disaster for them.

It would merely mean that they're a last place pollster.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2012, 09:39:04 pm »
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Quote from: mondale84 on June 05, 2012, 02:50:50 pm
LOL at people thinking this is going to be anything but close.

Indeed.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 09:52:19 pm »
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We're looking at a double digit win for Walker, probably settling around the 11-15 range.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 10:39:27 pm »
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If people still trust Zogby interactive polls, they'll still trust PPP.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 01:49:26 pm »
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Quote from: Dereich on June 05, 2012, 10:39:27 pm
If people still trust Zogby interactive polls, they'll still trust PPP.

Actually Zogby has been getting better with his online polls over the last few years.
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 09:23:57 pm »
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More to the point, is that maybe folks should lose faith in exit polls!
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 09:26:18 pm »
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Quote from: Torie on June 06, 2012, 09:23:57 pm
More to the point, is that maybe folks should lose faith in exit polls!

Or as Nate Silver tweeted last night. Exit polls were right in every election... except 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998... Tongue Sabato also said something similar.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 11:29:42 pm »
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Quote from: Dereich on June 05, 2012, 10:39:27 pm
If people still trust Zogby interactive polls, they'll still trust PPP.

They were off a couple of points, dear god...

Also lol @ Bushie's post.
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