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« on: July 19, 2012, 06:35:55 pm »
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It only has 5 electoral votes, so its not a huge deal, but the latest PPP poll has Obama only up 5 points in the Land of Enchantment - 49-44.  Mind you, there is a possibility of Gov. Susana Martinez getting the nod to be Mitt Romney's Running Mate.  She would help out with Latinos and would possibly help in the Southwest including Colorado and may help solidify Arizona.  She has the risk of being compared to Sarah Palin, even though she is nothing like the half-term Alaska Governor.

I still think New Mexico is probably going blue and that Gov. Martinez will not be picked, but I wanted to gauge what other people are saying.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 06:40:10 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 06:40:46 pm »
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Easy there, bud. One interesting poll does not equal a chance for a Romney win just yet. It certainly draws attention, but let's not get carried away. If we start talking about states as tossups every time leads dip below double digits we'll be insane by election day.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 06:42:38 pm »
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Easy there, bud. One interesting poll does not equal a chance for a Romney win just yet. It certainly draws attention, but let's not get carried away. If we start talking about states as tossups every time leads dip below double digits we'll be insane by election day.

I was echoing www.electoral-vote.com.  I personally don't believe its too much in play, but you never know in this climate.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 06:47:47 pm »
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No, not at all.  Whatever positive Martinez brings is cancelled out by the negatives, like she's a really weak public speaker and doesn't have much experience.  She's a fine governor, but more of an administrator than politician.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 07:15:21 pm »
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NM is a possibility only if there is a severe recession.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 07:24:25 pm »
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If it's a toss-up, Obama has already lost.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 07:28:50 pm »
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No, Gary Johnson will kill Romney there. Its one of the states where he takes from Romney more than Obama. Colorado, on the other hand, is a place where Johnson could hurt Obama...
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 07:30:29 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 09:19:42 pm »
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No, Gary Johnson will kill Romney there. Its one of the states where he takes from Romney more than Obama. Colorado, on the other hand, is a place where Johnson could hurt Obama...

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 09:52:19 pm »
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It won't happen, unless the Latino turnout is lower than normal and Martinez is chosen for VP.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 09:54:05 pm »
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New Mexico is a poor state and I am sure that it would not cost much. Thus, it is a possibility for him to attain it but is it the type of place Romney would like to own?
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 09:54:49 pm »
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Personally, I think Romney doesn't care if he wins NM or not.  It would be icing on the cake in his favor.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 09:58:02 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 10:33:48 pm »
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 10:42:33 pm »
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It only has 5 electoral votes, so its not a huge deal, but the latest PPP poll has Obama only up 5 points in the Land of Enchantment - 49-44.  Mind you, there is a possibility of Gov. Susana Martinez getting the nod to be Mitt Romney's Running Mate.  She would help out with Latinos and would possibly help in the Southwest including Colorado and may help solidify Arizona.  She has the risk of being compared to Sarah Palin, even though she is nothing like the half-term Alaska Governor.

I still think New Mexico is probably going blue and that Gov. Martinez will not be picked, but I wanted to gauge what other people are saying.


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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 10:43:26 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 10:49:12 pm »
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Don't delude yourself like that.
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 11:05:52 pm »
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Mitt Romney is doing worse with Hispanic voters than any GOP candidate since Bob Dole. No, no, a thousand times no.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 11:32:26 pm »
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electoral-vote.com is a great thing, but you can't follow it literally like you're following the Bible.

So, the next time you're going to say South Carolina is possible for Obama (just 6% of gap) or, perhaps, Tennessee (just 7%!!!)?
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 11:53:21 pm »
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The only reason I brought this up is that New Mexico has a history of being a swing state.  Maybe not so much now, but it does have a history.  South Carolina and Tennessee are generally not considered swing states.
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 12:59:26 am »
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The only reason I brought this up is that New Mexico has a history of being a swing state.  Maybe not so much now, but it does have a history.  South Carolina and Tennessee are generally not considered swing states.

I'd be rather cautious about categorizing swing states. Pennsylvania, for example, is always described as one despite last voting for a Republican in 1988.
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2012, 01:04:02 am »
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The only reason I brought this up is that New Mexico has a history of being a swing state.  Maybe not so much now, but it does have a history.  South Carolina and Tennessee are generally not considered swing states.

I'd be rather cautious about categorizing swing states. Pennsylvania, for example, is always described as one despite last voting for a Republican in 1988.

I don't consider Pennsylvania to be a swing state.  Could it go Republican? Sure.  PA is a little bluer than Ohio, but not quite as blue as New Jersey.  I know it changes slightly from cycle to cycle, but not a whole lot.  The reason I mentioned New Mexico as a swing state is it went to Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.  To me, New Mexico is like the Iowa of the Southwest.  It is a small state with not too big of an impact on the race as a whole, but still given the right conditions could go either way.
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2012, 03:07:50 am »
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I guess NM is kind of like Iowa. The only difference is that Iowa didn't vote for Obama by over 16 points. New Mexico did. It's going to be incredibly tough to flip that margin of victory, especially when Obama still appears to be winning hispanics at the same rate he did in 2008.
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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2012, 11:09:19 am »
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I recently spent a few days in New Mexico.  In retrospect the politics seem to break on racial lines despite no real racial tension.  All Whites I encountered would vote republican if they vote.  All Navajos seemed to be the other way.  Hispanics weren't political, but they seemed susceptible to class warfare.  Odd experience, odd state, it isn't a "no chance", but you would have to spend money to change the status quo and BO would probably outspend you there if you gained any ground.  I could see Obama winning by 4 instead of 16 which is interesting.       
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