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Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 21, 2012, 06:33:09 am »
This is an elections forum, so why not do this like an elections thread?
Anyways, this is all happening rather soon. Large numbers of names have been floated around as possible candidates for the least rewarding job in Christendom, and a decent overview of them (and of the process) can be found
here
.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appointment_of_Church_of_England_bishops
just to fill in the missing bits on who gets to vote here, exactly.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 21, 2012, 07:09:18 am »
My favourite part of the article:
'there is even Dr Barry Morgan, a Welshman, to represent the
rest of the world
for the first time in this process.'
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on September 21, 2012, 06:33:09 am
This is an elections forum, so why not do this like an elections thread?
Anyways, this is all happening rather soon. Large numbers of names have been floated around as possible candidates for
the least rewarding job in Christendom
, and a decent overview of them (and of the process) can be found
here
.
His grace, the archbishop of Dublin disagrees with your assertion.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 21, 2012, 02:26:11 pm »
I had the perception a few months ago that ++York's star was a bit on the wane for these purposes. Was that true, and if so, is it still true now?
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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Quote from: Nathan on September 21, 2012, 02:26:11 pm
I had the perception a few months ago that ++York's star was a bit on the wane for these purposes. Was that true, and if so, is it still true now?
Sentamu is perceived as too eager for the job. Not signing the Cambridge Accord has also haunted him.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 22, 2012, 02:05:41 am »
Quote from: Iatrogenesis on September 21, 2012, 09:01:29 am
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on September 21, 2012, 06:33:09 am
This is an elections forum, so why not do this like an elections thread?
Anyways, this is all happening rather soon. Large numbers of names have been floated around as possible candidates for
the least rewarding job in Christendom
, and a decent overview of them (and of the process) can be found
here
.
His grace, the archbishop of Dublin disagrees with your assertion.
Maybe he'll be the next Archbishop of Canterbury? Or do you think they won't go outside the Church of England as they did last time?
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 22, 2012, 09:18:30 am »
Does the Archbishop of Canterbury actually matter anymore? For that matter, are there even still any Anglicans who still believe in God outside of former British West Africa? Episcopalianism is basically culturally irrelevant in the United States now.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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Quote from: 後援会 on September 22, 2012, 09:18:30 am
Does the Archbishop of Canterbury actually matter anymore? For that matter, are there even still any Anglicans who still believe in God outside of former British West Africa? Episcopalianism is basically culturally irrelevant in the United States now.
It still is culturally relevent in a lot of social circles that are disproportionately influential to their size. I guess the real question I would ask is does the Archbishop of Canterbury matter
within
Episcopalianism?
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 22, 2012, 12:36:20 pm »
The post matters a great deal, but has basically no power. Which is precisely why it is the least rewarding job in Christendom.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 22, 2012, 01:32:16 pm »
Quote from: For a Few Dollars More on September 22, 2012, 02:05:41 am
Quote from: Iatrogenesis on September 21, 2012, 09:01:29 am
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on September 21, 2012, 06:33:09 am
This is an elections forum, so why not do this like an elections thread?
Anyways, this is all happening rather soon. Large numbers of names have been floated around as possible candidates for
the least rewarding job in Christendom
, and a decent overview of them (and of the process) can be found
here
.
His grace, the archbishop of Dublin disagrees with your assertion.
Maybe he'll be the next Archbishop of Canterbury? Or do you think they won't go outside the Church of England as they did last time?
Well the CoE certainly needs a radical change but I don't think it is quite ready to return to Rome just yet.
@Al: Yeah, I know what you were saying. I just wanted to interject a little something there.
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... and that, by the way, is also one of the reasons why none of Eric Hobsbawm's books has been turned into a succesful Broadway musical so far.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 23, 2012, 02:33:18 am »
What is Justin Welby like? I've been hearing more about him lately.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 23, 2012, 12:39:59 pm »
I spoke to Charters once, I think. The guy is a moron.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 23, 2012, 01:21:08 pm »
He speaks very highly of you, however.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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Congratulations Al, you just proved JJ's point.
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Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on September 23, 2012, 01:21:08 pm
He speaks very highly of you, however.
He couldn't answer the official role of the Queen in the Church of England (It was pre-Internet).
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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Quote from: J. J. on September 23, 2012, 06:43:43 pm
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on September 23, 2012, 01:21:08 pm
He speaks very highly of you, however.
He couldn't answer the official role of the Queen in the Church of England (It was pre-Internet).
It's not going to be Chartres.
Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
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Quote from: Nathan on September 23, 2012, 08:04:59 pm
Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
Their career choice would suggest otherwise.
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Quote from: Minion of Phil on September 24, 2012, 04:04:51 am
Quote from: Nathan on September 23, 2012, 08:04:59 pm
Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
Their career choice would suggest otherwise.
Har har. Be serious.
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Quote from: Nathan on September 24, 2012, 05:11:15 am
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Quote from: Nathan on September 23, 2012, 08:04:59 pm
Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
Their career choice would suggest otherwise.
Har har. Be serious.
I am.
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Quote from: Minion of Phil on September 24, 2012, 05:38:07 am
Quote from: Nathan on September 24, 2012, 05:11:15 am
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Quote from: Nathan on September 23, 2012, 08:04:59 pm
Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
Their career choice would suggest otherwise.
Har har. Be serious.
I am.
Classy.
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Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 11:39:10 am by Nathan
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Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
Their career choice would suggest otherwise.
Har har. Be serious.
I am.
Classy.
Note that I am referring specifically to the clergy of the Conservative Party at Prayer in their modern post-gentlemanly days, and am by no means making any sort of statement on the other member churches of the Anglican Communion.
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Quote from: Minion of Phil on September 25, 2012, 12:10:03 pm
Quote from: Nathan on September 24, 2012, 11:31:06 am
Quote from: Minion of Phil on September 24, 2012, 05:38:07 am
Quote from: Nathan on September 24, 2012, 05:11:15 am
Quote from: Minion of Phil on September 24, 2012, 04:04:51 am
Quote from: Nathan on September 23, 2012, 08:04:59 pm
Is there any senior cleric in the Church of England who is
not
on some level outright disqualified or a just plain bad choice?
Their career choice would suggest otherwise.
Har har. Be serious.
I am.
Classy.
Note that I am referring specifically to the clergy of the Conservative Party at Prayer in their modern post-gentlemanly days, and am by no means making any sort of statement on the other member churches of the Anglican Communion.
Duly noted. In that case I more or less agree. I'm given to understand that Church of England vicars and more junior bishops are often (not always but often) more or less respectable. But you're right that it is hard to be respectable and a senior Church of England cleric.
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Re: Archbishop of Canterbury election 2012
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September 28, 2012, 01:54:01 pm »
So the Crown Nominations Commission has met, and one assumes made a decision. Now we play the waiting game.
...ah, the waiting game sucks; let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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Professor
Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
It's like one minute you're preaching from the pulpit at some exceedingly dull church; the next you're a giving a Womens' Studies lecture at Berkeley.
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