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Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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Tender Branson
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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Reply #15 on:
August 31, 2006, 02:33:45 am »
The Union is also polling as high as 36% in other polls like the
Forschungsgruppe Wahlen
and
Infratest-Dimap
, while the SPD is generally at 29/30% in all polls. The Left Party is polling from 7-12%, letīs say close to 10%, while the FDP is around 13% and the Greens at 10% too.
We can say that the coalition is hovering around 60%, down from the 70% at the time of the elections and the opposition is at 1/3 of votes and other parties at 5%. The CDU alone, without the CSU would only get close to 25% now
What do you think ? Will they break up the coalition when both parties fall below 25% and call for new elections ?
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 01, 2006, 12:19:38 pm »
Quote from: rabbit dancing in the middle of a firefight on August 30, 2006, 06:06:47 am
According to Forsa, if an election were held today, we get the following result:
CDU/CSU 30%
SPD 29%
FDP 14%
Left.PDS 12%
Greens 10%
other 5%.
The FDP, the Left.PDS and the Greens...blah.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 01, 2006, 04:12:16 pm »
Shoot zem... shoot zem all! - NPD Manifesto
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 04, 2006, 12:46:04 pm »
The problem in Germany has been, that all reasonable conservatives have forced to one party although nobody beleaves that the conservatives would be so monolithic in that big country. The FDP must play simultoueneusly all versions of bourgeois opposition.
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Old Europe
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 13, 2006, 05:11:25 am »
Quote from: rabbit dancing in the middle of a firefight on August 30, 2006, 06:06:47 am
According to Forsa, if an election were held today, we get the following result:
CDU/CSU 30%
SPD 29%
FDP 14%
Left.PDS 12%
Greens 10%
other 5%.
New poll
:
CDU/CSU 30%
SPD 28%
FDP 15%
Greens 10%
Left.PDS 10%
Other parties 7%
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 13, 2006, 04:35:04 pm »
I wish they would give vote totals for the "other parties" just to see what there support is.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 13, 2006, 05:44:03 pm »
Quote from: Justice Colin Wixted on September 13, 2006, 04:35:04 pm
I wish they would give vote totals for the "other parties" just to see what there support is.
Do you really want to know how much the Grey Panthers (a senior citizen's party) or the Animal Rights Party would get at the moment?
Usually, "other parties" aren't seperately listed unless they seem to have a realistic chance of passing the 5% threshold. This means that an individual party has to be polled at at least 3 or 4%. Take the current state election campaign in Mecklenburg for example. The NPD didn't appear in the polls until they were at 3 or 4%. Since then, there appeared in almost every poll.
However, it's safe too assume that right-wing extremist parties are making up a relatively large portion of that 7%... maybe in the range of 2 or 3%.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 13, 2006, 06:55:41 pm »
Quote from: Old Europe on September 13, 2006, 05:44:03 pm
Quote from: Justice Colin Wixted on September 13, 2006, 04:35:04 pm
I wish they would give vote totals for the "other parties" just to see what there support is.
Do you really want to know how much the Grey Panthers (a senior citizen's party) or the Animal Rights Party would get at the moment?
Usually, "other parties" aren't seperately listed unless they seem to have a realistic chance of passing the 5% threshold. This means that an individual party has to be polled at at least 3 or 4%. Take the current state election campaign in Mecklenburg for example. The NPD didn't appear in the polls until they were at 3 or 4%. Since then, there appeared in almost every poll.
However, it's safe too assume that right-wing extremist parties are making up a relatively large portion of that 7%... maybe in the range of 2 or 3%.
Yes I would actually. The Grey Panthers are vitally important to German politics.
I was mostly concerned with the numbers that the Republicans and the NPD are getting since the number, 7%, is higher than it usually is, it's usually around 4-5%.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 13, 2006, 08:37:49 pm »
Quote from: afleitch on August 30, 2006, 06:11:22 am
Come on FDP!
inasmuch as I understand them, that's my favorite as well.
Lewis, what's your point? after sixty years do you suppose von Hayek's ghost is being awakened?
What I do know is that every stock I own except Deutsche Telekom is worth more than I paid for it. Any business-friendly change in Germany is just fine by me.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 14, 2006, 03:58:07 am »
Quote from: angus on September 13, 2006, 08:37:49 pm
Quote from: afleitch on August 30, 2006, 06:11:22 am
Come on FDP!
inasmuch as I understand them, that's my favorite as well.
Lewis, what's your point? after sixty years do you suppose von Hayek's ghost is being awakened?
What I do know is that every stock I own except Deutsche Telekom is worth more than I paid for it. Any business-friendly change in Germany is just fine by me.
Not von Hayek's ghost, no.
1848-1933's political ghost - ie, a highly fractured party system - *might* be finally reasserting itself, though.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 14, 2006, 11:10:43 am »
Quote from: Justice Colin Wixted on September 13, 2006, 06:55:41 pm
I was mostly concerned with the numbers that the Republicans and the NPD are getting since the number, 7%, is higher than it usually is, it's usually around 4-5%.
True. But perhaps it will be back to "normal" next week.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 22, 2006, 12:14:24 pm »
New poll: CDU/CSU 30%, SPD 30%, FDP 13%, Left 11%, Greens 10%
By some outfit called Emid.
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September 22, 2006, 01:19:58 pm »
In related news they were rumours about secret talks (well, not
that
secret I suppose) between SPD and FDP about ousting Merkel and installing a SPD/FDP/Green coalition.
SPD and CDU aren't getting very well along at the moment... mostly because health care reform is currently the dominant topic and both parties have fundamentally different ideas about it.
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Re: Lowest support for (SPD+CDU+CSU) ever!
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September 22, 2006, 02:46:48 pm »
Quote from: Al ydw i on September 22, 2006, 12:14:24 pm
New poll: CDU/CSU 30%, SPD 30%, FDP 13%, Left 11%, Greens 10%
By some outfit called Emid.
Emnid.
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September 25, 2006, 03:07:18 pm »
CDU/CDU drops below 30% the first time since 2000.
SPD 30%
CDU/CSU 29%
FDP 15%
Left.PDS 10%
Greens 9%
Other parties 7%
(Forsa, 09/25)
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