PA 13

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Ok, just because this kid goes to your high school and doesn't agree with me you have to attack him.


I GOT THE MAGIC STICK!!!!  

[Keystone Phil]

Ok, just because this kid goes to your high school and doesn't agree with me you have to attack him.


I GOT THE MAGIC STICK!!!!  

I'm not attacking the kid and I'm not having this argument anymore. This kid wants to cause trouble on the forum. Let's get back to the good 'ol PA 13 debates, not the name calling and childish attacks.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Ok, just because this kid goes to your high school and doesn't agree with me you have to attack him.


I GOT THE MAGIC STICK!!!!  

I'm not attacking the kid and I'm not having this argument anymore. This kid wants to cause trouble on the forum. Let's get back to the good 'ol PA 13 debates, not the name calling and childish attacks.

Deal!  Always good to switch it up every once in a while to break the monotony.

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Is this the Pennsylvania b*tch thread? All you guys do is argue! Get a room already!

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Is this the Pennsylvania b*tch thread? All you guys do is argue! Get a room already!

Aww are you jealous?

[Keystone Phil]

Is this the Pennsylvania b*tch thread? All you guys do is argue! Get a room already!

This is probably the best thread on the forum! Plus, we are arguing about one of the top 10 Congressional races in the country so...yeah...we're going to argue.

(As for the "other" arguments, hopefully they end for good. Demotroll obviously loves to cause trouble and interupts what is usually a good debate on PA 13, not personal issues.)

[Keystone Phil]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

[Keystone Phil]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

[Keystone Phil]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

What you fail to realize is that a patient even rightfully suing a doctor that f-ed up is about 1 of 8 because most lawyers won't take and the chances of winning even after a lawyers takes it is 1 of 20!!!  Classic Melissa Brown and another divide and conquer scheme based on false premises.  Fortunately I am a good juror and my verdict for her will be NO SALE!!!

[Keystone Phil]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

 Fortunately I am a good juror and my verdict for her will be NO SALE!!!

You must think these up in advance or something. Anyway, Happy Labor Day. Let the campaigning begin!

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

 Fortunately I am a good juror and my verdict for her will be NO SALE!!!

You must think these up in advance or something. Anyway, Happy Labor Day. Let the campaigning begin!

In advance?? I don't think so.  I have very good factual knowledge on these things.  Just wondering who is you MUN moderator?  On a more personal note I tried to sue an @sshole doctor myself and the lawyer gave me these stats.  Don't ask about details of the case.  This is a small part of the reason I am not voting for Melissa brown.  

[Keystone Phil]

I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

 Fortunately I am a good juror and my verdict for her will be NO SALE!!!

You must think these up in advance or something. Anyway, Happy Labor Day. Let the campaigning begin!

In advance?? I don't think so.  I have very good factual knowledge on these things.  

No no I meant that saying about how you're a "good juror" and you say "No Sale" to her. Some of the things you come up with...

[Keystone Phil]

It seems like Brown is very popular with the law enforcement community especially if you compare her and Schwartz...

http://www.politicspa.com/Press_Releases/090704brown.htm

And CNN has PA 13 as one of the top four "Hot" Congressional races

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/house/index.html

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Roosevelt Blvd. (US 1 for those out of town) was a sweet sight today and I also saw one lawn sign of Allyson Schwartz going to work!  Yeah, Melissa Brown will roll out in a few days along with her usual dirty campaigning.  LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

It seems like Brown is very popular with the law enforcement community especially if you compare her and Schwartz...

http://www.politicspa.com/Press_Releases/090704brown.htm

And CNN has PA 13 as one of the top four "Hot" Congressional races

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/house/index.html

Melissa Brown's popularity with law enforcement does NOTHING to sway my vote.  I find most cops are Republicans anyway, but for some reason many FOPs in the past have endorsed Democrats.  There are too many unions in the district that are supporting Schwartz that will swamp her (Local 98, Steamfitters, etc.)  Plus the vote everyhwere else plus the drastic increase in liberalism in Montgomery County may be too much for Brown to overcome.  Non-law enforcement residents of Northeast Philly are feeling the economic pinch and more times than none vote Demcoratic.  Cops and firemen have very good salary, benefits, and job security second to none so they obviously have more of a luxury to focus on issues such as crime and punishment when making their decisions at the polls.  I DON'T!  Raggage this is not meant to offend you because you're a cool cop that sees a lot of things and I respect that.  I share your desire to remove our Prick Senator Santorum.  A good number, though not all of Northeast Philadelphia cops have that blase, "I can f--k with anyone I want, I hate ni--ers" Republican attitude though.  I really think if I were African American, I would have been in the hospital for the underage drinking I did at Rec centers instead of being told "conceal your 40 son".  Melissa Brown appeals to this menatlity very much and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable.

[Keystone Phil]

Roosevelt Blvd. (US 1 for those out of town) was a sweet sight today and I also saw one lawn sign of Allyson Schwartz going to work!  Yeah, Melissa Brown will roll out in a few days along with her usual dirty campaigning.  LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

Yeah there goes Schwartz putting up thousands of her signs two feet apart from each other. That really annoys people when all they see are signs. And to be honest with you, you won't be seeing many Schwartz lawn signs in NE Philly. That's why she needs thousands of them on the roadways.

Also, Schwartz is the only one with the "dirty" campaigning right now. All she does is accuse Brown of this and that and doesn't back a single thing up! Unlike Brown who has focused her campaign on issues important to voters.

[Keystone Phil]

It seems like Brown is very popular with the law enforcement community especially if you compare her and Schwartz...

http://www.politicspa.com/Press_Releases/090704brown.htm

And CNN has PA 13 as one of the top four "Hot" Congressional races

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/house/index.html

  Melissa Brown appeals to this menatlity very much and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable.

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Roosevelt Blvd. (US 1 for those out of town) was a sweet sight today and I also saw one lawn sign of Allyson Schwartz going to work!  Yeah, Melissa Brown will roll out in a few days along with her usual dirty campaigning.  LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

Also, Schwartz is the only one with the "dirty" campaigning right now. All she does is accuse Brown of this and that and doesn't back a single thing up! Unlike Brown who has focused her campaign on issues important to voters.

Go to Allyson's website.  She backs it up pretty well.  Brown has focused on issues important to HER, not the voters of the NE.  She wants to find an easier target to reduce her insurance premiums, so she figured she can attack the supposed "outargeousness of lawsuits."

[Keystone Phil]

Roosevelt Blvd. (US 1 for those out of town) was a sweet sight today and I also saw one lawn sign of Allyson Schwartz going to work!  Yeah, Melissa Brown will roll out in a few days along with her usual dirty campaigning.  LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

Also, Schwartz is the only one with the "dirty" campaigning right now. All she does is accuse Brown of this and that and doesn't back a single thing up! Unlike Brown who has focused her campaign on issues important to voters.

Go to Allyson's website.  She backs it up pretty well.  Brown has focused on issues important to HER, not the voters of the NE.  She wants to find an easier target to reduce her insurance premiums, so she figured she can attack the supposed "outargeousness of lawsuits."

You must be joking. Section 8 reform is not important to voters in the NE? Tort reform isn't important up here? Listen, I understand if you don't agree with Brown but saying she isn't focusing on issues important to the people in the Northeast is ridiculous.

Why won't Schwartz discuss these issues? Why won't she share her opinion on Section 8?

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

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As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

I think PA 13 would benefit if Section 8 was eliminated.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

I think PA 13 would benefit if Section 8 was eliminated.

Thanks for chiming in.  Can you please tell me what other Congressional Districts are in Northeast Philadelphia or what Steak places are there?  I didn't think so!  Instead of making broad based assupmtions, you might want to think of putting more detail into your posts.  If you have good knowledge of the district, I'd like to hear it.  Otherwise, just let me and KeystonePhil answer your questions.  Thank you.