PA 13

[Keystone Phil]

Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

[Keystone Phil]

As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

I think PA 13 would benefit if Section 8 was eliminated.

It shouldn't be eliminated but it needs some BIG reforms. Check out Melissa Brown's site (the candidate who is actually addressing the issue unlike Schwartz) and you'll see some of the reforms she is pushing for  http://www.melissabrownforcongress.com/issues/Section%208.htm

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

[Keystone Phil]

Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

Well I hope that you will now take back the ridiculous comment about how Brown received that endorsement (even though I find this reasoning about "payback" ridiculous too).

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

Well I hope that you will now take back the ridiculous comment about how Brown received that endorsement (even though I find this reasoning about "payback" ridiculous too).

I take it back, but I was just taking a wild, yet somewhat valid guess.   The "payback" reasoning is NOT ridiculous because the FOP loves Abraham and Schwartz's endorsement of Talamadge in 2001 may have set off an old spark.

[Keystone Phil]

Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

Well I hope that you will now take back the ridiculous comment about how Brown received that endorsement (even though I find this reasoning about "payback" ridiculous too).

I take it back, but I was just taking a wild, yet somewhat valid guess.   The "payback" reasoning is NOT ridiculous because the FOP loves Abraham and Schwartz's endorsement of Talamadge in 2001 may have set off an old spark.

Do you know for certain that Schwartz backed Talamadge? And for some reason I keep thinking that Abraham endorsed Schwartz during the primary (I could be mistaken. Abraham endorsing Torsella wouldn't surprise me at all).

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

Well I hope that you will now take back the ridiculous comment about how Brown received that endorsement (even though I find this reasoning about "payback" ridiculous too).

I take it back, but I was just taking a wild, yet somewhat valid guess.   The "payback" reasoning is NOT ridiculous because the FOP loves Abraham and Schwartz's endorsement of Talamadge in 2001 may have set off an old spark.

Do you know for certain that Schwartz backed Talamadge? And for some reason I keep thinking that Abraham endorsed Schwartz during the primary (I could be mistaken. Abraham endorsing Torsella wouldn't surprise me at all).

I'm certain Schwartz backed Talamadge.  Abraham backed Torsella in the primary.

[??????????]

As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

I think PA 13 would benefit if Section 8 was eliminated.

Thanks for chiming in.  Can you please tell me what other Congressional Districts are in Northeast Philadelphia or what Steak places are there?  I didn't think so!  Instead of making broad based assupmtions, you might want to think of putting more detail into your posts.  If you have good knowledge of the district, I'd like to hear it.  Otherwise, just let me and KeystonePhil answer your questions.  Thank you.  

OK mick.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

KeystonePhil, I was wondering.  Have you seen Sam Mirarchi's latest press release or his website?  I've seen both and have considered it.  YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!!!  Do you honestly think I am going to buy this BS?  It has become a seemingly central theme within the Philadelphia GOP.  Because they can't do anything otherwise they have to resort to 2 tactics if all else fails:

1.  Bring up Section 8
2.  Tie your Democratic opponent to John Street

Dude, this is getting pathetic.  No, really!  The fact that the top of your ticket are @ssholes means at the local level your party has to resort such tactics to hopefully get elected.  Do you honestly think I should vote for someone that's 30, lives with his parents, and can't blurb out anythign else but Section 8?  While Brendan Boyle is 27, he had to learn the hard way and that's right....  HE DOESN'T LIVE WITH HIS PARENTS!!!  Boyle didn't live in a Pine Valley mansion like Mirarchi did and knows the middle class better. I mean I thought Melissa Brown was bad, but Sam Mirarchi is pathetic!    

 

[Keystone Phil]

KeystonePhil, I was wondering.  Have you seen Sam Mirarchi's latest press release or his website?  I've seen both and have considered it.  YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!!!  Do you honestly think I am going to buy this BS?  It has become a seemingly central theme within the Philadelphia GOP.  Because they can't do anything otherwise they have to resort to 2 tactics if all else fails:

1.  Bring up Section 8
2.  Tie your Democratic opponent to John Street

Dude, this is getting pathetic.  No, really!  The fact that the top of your ticket are @ssholes means at the local level your party has to resort such tactics to hopefully get elected.  Do you honestly think I should vote for someone that's 30, lives with his parents, and can't blurb out anythign else but Section 8?  While Brendan Boyle is 27, he had to learn the hard way and that's right....  HE DOESN'T LIVE WITH HIS PARENTS!!!  Boyle didn't live in a Pine Valley mansion like Mirarchi did and knows the middle class better. I mean I thought Melissa Brown was bad, but Sam Mirarchi is pathetic!    

 

You're the pathetic one. You're making fun of the fact that someone lives with their parents while you're one of  the angriest most pathetic liberal on this forum. And what does Brendan Boyle have to do with this subject? Can't defend Stack, can you? You won't bring up that Mirarchi has probably met with more voters in one year of campaigning as opposed to Stack who most people don't know. I know I'd rather have someone that lives with their parents as our State Senator as opposed to Mike Stack who has not a single accomplishment while in office and is very rarely seen in the district.

[Keystone Phil]

 Boyle didn't live in a Pine Valley mansion like Mirarchi did and knows the middle class better. I mean I thought Melissa Brown was bad, but Sam Mirarchi is pathetic!    

And can I ask what are you talking about? Pine Valley mansion? Well that would mean one thing right? He's rich, right? Well wrong. Just because his parent's own a small buisness tire company doesn't mean he's rich. And if he was rich, wouldn't you think he'd be pumping tons of money into this campaign? Please do yourself a favor and think before you speak.

[Keystone Phil]

In other Stack-Mirarchi news, a new Mirarchi poll shows the following...

Stack - 45%
Mirarchi - 44%
Undecideds - 11%

(Let's get back to debating PA13 as soon as possible. It's not that I don't mind discussing this but ya know...it's the PA13 thread. If you have points to bring up for this, go ahead but let's get back on topic soon.)

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

I brought up Mirarchi because he is trying to win on the same issue Melissa Brown is.  You were trying to get me to vote Mirarchi and I obviously grilled him.  Do I apologize for it? NO!  Hey, Miek Stack has to WORK in the State Senate.  Mirarchi has the luxury of going around to meet and greet voters.  I could care less about who is cmapigning where, I want someone that has my best interests.  Mike Stack did get quite a few things accomplished such as expanding PACE and his fighting against the closing of firehouses and the outrageous PGW surchrages.  All Sam Mirarchi has done is criticize, but he has no real plans other than Section 8.  I am angry and have every right to be because he thinks I should vote for him over that issue alone.  Does he honestly think I'm that stupid?  I'm going to create another thread in Individual Politics pointing out some of the GOP tactics.    

[Keystone Phil]

I brought up Mirarchi because he is trying to win on the same issue Melissa Brown is.  You were trying to get me to vote Mirarchi and I obviously grilled him.  Do I apologize for it? NO!  Hey, Miek Stack has to WORK in the State Senate.  Mirarchi has the luxury of going around to meet and greet voters.  I could care less about who is cmapigning where, I want someone that has my best interests.  Mike Stack did get quite a few things accomplished such as expanding PACE and his fighting against the closing of firehouses and the outrageous PGW surchrages.  All Sam Mirarchi has done is criticize, but he has no real plans other than Section 8.  I am angry and have every right to be because he thinks I should vote for him over that issue alone.  Does he honestly think I'm that stupid?  I'm going to create another thread in Individual Politics pointing out some of the GOP tactics.    

Ok exuse me for just a moment. You said that Stack has to work in the State Senate. That's true. Thing is, he does nothing, really. But you were implying that he does. Now that's a laugh!

You brought up the firefighters. Stack rallied with him (in an attempt to disassociate himself from Street) and so did Mirarchi. Brown did, too. Where was Allyson Schwartz? Hmmm.

And finally, I'd like to point out how you falsely accused Mirarchi of living with his parents (I know it's hard but stop reading PoliticsPa.com for awhile.) Even if he did, that has ZERO relevance to this debate and continues to show your lack of ability to hold an argument on issues.

[Keystone Phil]

Mirarchi has the luxury of going around to meet and greet voters.  

I forgot to point out this amusing line. Sure it's great to meet and greet voters and talk with them. I know that Mirarchi likes it (he has a strong grassroots campaign) but I wouldn't call it a luxury. Some residents are totally ignorant to candidates (regardless of party) and make it very difficult for the candidate. Then again these are just a few. Many residents are very welcoming. I wouldn't call it a luxury though.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

By the way, nice article in the Times.  I understand you want to express your opinion to the voters of Northeast Philadelphia.  Next time COME UP WITH SOME FACTS before you falsely bash Allyson Schwartz.  Melissa Brown does indeed have a horrendous history of negative campaigning and making false accusations against both Joe Hoeffel in the past and now Allyson Schwartz.  Oh and did you read the Mike Stack article?  Well, that just proves what I've been trying to tell you all along.  If you think I'm going to publicly respond to that in the paper, you must be dreaming!  

[Keystone Phil]

By the way, nice article in the Times.  I understand you want to express your opinion to the voters of Northeast Philadelphia.  Next time COME UP WITH SOME FACTS before you falsely bash Allyson Schwartz.  Melissa Brown does indeed have a horrendous history of negative campaigning and making false accusations against both Joe Hoeffel in the past and now Allyson Schwartz.  Oh and did you read the Mike Stack article?  Well, that just proves what I've been trying to tell you all along.  If you think I'm going to publicly respond to that in the paper, you must be dreaming!  

Come up with facts? Where should I begin? Schwartz has pretty much focused her campaign on calling Brown negative yet can't point out a single negative thing she has done in this race. Not one thing!

[Keystone Phil]

The NE Times doesn't get to my house till Tomorrow so I figured I'd check out the site. I was reading the letters to the editor and I was wondering if you saw the one about Schwartz's signs? Didn't I tell you people will be mad that she is littering every major roadway with a sign every two feet?

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

The NE Times doesn't get to my house till Tomorrow so I figured I'd check out the site. I was reading the letters to the editor and I was wondering if you saw the one about Schwartz's signs? Didn't I tell you people will be mad that she is littering every major roadway with a sign every two feet?

The person probably wasn't going to vote for her anyway.  He was making an excuse not to.  Yes, Keystone there will be Democrats voting Brown unfortunately.  Brown will go on her littering rampage as she has done in the past as well.  She is also an offennder of those tacky utility pole signs.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

I also forgot about Ginny Schrader and Lois Murphy.  LET'S HEAR IT FOR ALL DA LADIES IN DA HOUSE!!!! (US House literally)  CAN I GET A WUT! WUT!

[Keystone Phil]

The NE Times doesn't get to my house till Tomorrow so I figured I'd check out the site. I was reading the letters to the editor and I was wondering if you saw the one about Schwartz's signs? Didn't I tell you people will be mad that she is littering every major roadway with a sign every two feet?

The person probably wasn't going to vote for her anyway.  He was making an excuse not to.  Yes, Keystone there will be Democrats voting Brown unfortunately.  Brown will go on her littering rampage as she has done in the past as well.  She is also an offennder of those tacky utility pole signs.

1) If you look at it as if it was one guy who wasn't going to vote for her you could say "Oh well only one vote against her." But remember it's a Democratic committeeman. He'll have an influence on Dems in his area.

2) You're a Schwartz supporter and you want to lecture Brown about littering? Are you kidding? Schwartz has signs up every two feet on most major roadways. She knows that she won't get many lawn signs up on people's lawns so she figures she can just throw them up everywhere else. Well the people don't seem to happy about it.

[??????????]

Please rename this thread. Thanks.

[Keystone Phil]

Please rename this thread. Thanks.

Haha. Nice one, States.

[RomneyGekko Situation Hairgel]

Hey KeystonePhil, your buddy John Perzel has his hands nice and dirty again.  If you think John Street is corrupt take a look at this:

Forced Contributions to GOP?
PHILADELPHIA-September 14, 2004 — Employees of the Republican-
controlled Philadelphia Parking Authority said they were told by
their superiors to contribute to the GOP, or risk losing their jobs,
a newspaper reported.
Five employees said they were pressured on the job to contribute
$275 per year, the Philadelphia Daily News reported for Tuesday
editions. Campaign finance records show dozens of $100 contributions
this year from workers making $25,000 or less.

State law forbids demanding political contributions from public
employees or contractors.

"It's extortion," said Michael J. Vecchione, who was hired two years
ago to work in the authority's impoundment lots. The four other
employees spoke to the Daily News on condition of anonymity.

Vecchione, 38, said he had been on the job about a month when his
supervisor asked him to buy a $100 ticket to the Republican City
Committee's fall dinner.

"I told her, "I'm not really a political person.' Then she told
me, 'You should understand, this is a patronage job and you have to
buy three tickets a year.' At that time, I refused to pay, but two
days later another supervisor came up and said I was still under
probation. If I didn't buy the tickets they could fire me."

Vecchione said he got another call from a woman in the office of
state House Republican leader John Perzel. Perzel, now the House
speaker, engineered the Republican Party's takeover of the Parking
Authority from the Democratic-controlled city in 2001.

"I told her, no one ever told me before I was hired about buying
these tickets. And she said, 'I'm telling you now,"' Vecchione said.

Prompted by an inquiry from the newspaper, the Parking Authority's
executive director, Joseph M. Egan Jr., sent a memo to all 823
authority employees last week warning them that they could be fired
for soliciting money on the job or threatening workers who refuse to
contribute.

"Employees must be free from any pressure, real or perceived, to
contribute to any activity or group," Egan said.

Parking Authority employees also said they had been asked to work
the polls. Several said the political activity appeared to be
organized by Vincent J. Fenerty, Egan's top deputy and a Republican
ward leader.

Fenerty denied pressuring employees to make a political
contribution, but acknowledged accepting a $100 donation from
Vecchione on authority time. Fenerty, however, described Vecchione
as a "disgruntled employee" and said Vecchione approached him with
the $100.

Vecchione said Fenerty had pressured him for the money.


Oh and by the way, have they found anything on Street?  Still waiting here!  Not that Street's a good mayor, but I love how the GOP is trying to grab everything for themselves... The Parking Authority, Philly International Airport, SEPTA, the Public Schools, and I'm sure many more things.  For being such a Democratic stronghold ripe with corruption from within you have to wonder.  I starting to think most of the crap is coming from you guys.  John Perzel and Rick Santorum are lovely Mob poster boys.  Melissa Brown and the whole Section 8 thing is a joke.  It looks ever so lovely that Ryan Ave. west of Cottman Ave has Perzel and Brown signs from door to door.  Gee, wonder how much they're paying for advertisement or worse yet extortion.      

[Keystone Phil]

John Perzel and Rick Santorum are lovely Mob poster boys.  Melissa Brown and the whole Section 8 thing is a joke.  It looks ever so lovely that Ryan Ave. west of Cottman Ave has Perzel and Brown signs from door to door.  Gee, wonder how much they're paying for advertisement or worse yet extortion.      

This is where your arguments aren't taken seriously. I guess now your accusing Perzel and Brown of forcing residents to put up lawn signs? I wouldn't be surprised if you are...

(By the way, your signature gives me a good laugh. )