Who will be the first Gay President?

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

You're probably thinking of Pim Fortuyn, who was basically the Straha of the Netherlands.

I find that comment offensive. Pim Fortuyn almost became prime minister in 2002.

He meant the politician not you. Chill.

[Gabu]

I doubt we'll ever have an openly gay president.

100 years ago, nobody would have thought we'd be this close to having an openly black or an openly female president.

[King]

I doubt we'll ever have an openly gay president.

100 years ago, nobody would have thought we'd be this close to having an openly black or an openly female president.

100 years ago, nobody would have thought we'd be giving them the right to vote.

[Hatman 🍁]

You're probably thinking of Pim Fortuyn, who was basically the Straha of the Netherlands.

I find that comment offensive.

Why? Straha's probably ideologically closest to Fortuyn of all the posters we got here.

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Really? Damn, my opinion of him has gone down.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think the question should be - who will be the first OPENLY gay president?

Since you know... Buchanan and Lincon's "nightimes" at the Solider's Home.

[HardRCafé]

I have to go with newcomer "Barny Franks," although David "Drier" is a close second.

[Verily]

You're probably thinking of Pim Fortuyn, who was basically the Straha of the Netherlands.

I find that comment offensive. Pim Fortuyn almost became prime minister in 2002.

He was Straha in popular politician form, entirely: racist, pro-segregation, yet socially liberal, and inclined to make idiotic or trollish remarks. Yes, he was a prominent gay politician, but that doesn't somehow redeem him any more than Al Sharpton being a prominent black politician redeems him.

And, no, he didn't "almost become Prime Minister". He was popular, but was nowhere near winning the election - until after he was assassinated, and then his party got enough sympathy votes to eke out second.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

You're probably thinking of Pim Fortuyn, who was basically the Straha of the Netherlands.

I find that comment offensive. Pim Fortuyn almost became prime minister in 2002.

He was Straha in popular politician form, entirely: racist, pro-segregation, yet socially liberal, and inclined to make idiotic or trollish remarks. Yes, he was a prominent gay politician, but that doesn't somehow redeem him any more than Al Sharpton being a prominent black politician redeems him.

And, no, he didn't "almost become Prime Minister". He was popular, but was nowhere near winning the election - until after he was assassinated, and then his party got enough sympathy votes to eke out second.

Lies. Islam is a problem for the west that needs to be addressed before more islamic nations besides Pakistan get the bomb. Pim Fortuyn was a smart liberal who saw what the consequences of tolerating islam in western nations were.

[12th Doctor]

Abraham Lincoln

A perfect example of how anchronistic thinking leads people to false conclusions.







The two men in this photo are not related... but they are not gay either.  They are business partners.  This photo was taken in 1860, when displays like this weren't seen as being odd in the least.  The rules changed.  Things like this became "suspect" and then all out "queer".  Similarly, Lincoln did a number of things that, back during his time were alright, but today would have someone branded as gay for sure.

[NDN]

I doubt we'll ever have an openly gay president.

100 30 years ago, nobody would have thought we'd be this close to having an openly black or an openly female president.

Fixed.

[StateBoiler]

No clue. But it'll be a closeted Republican that'll get outed.

[Verily]

No clue. But it'll be a closeted Republican that'll get outed.

No Jim McGreevey?

[ottermax]

It will be 20-30 years before there is a well qualified gay who has a chance of winning the election. You won't see a gay president till at least 20 years after that, maybe never. The world will probably change though withing the next few decades. We might elect a monkey as president.

[NDN]

I could see the US electing an openly gay or bi person president sometime between 2032 and 2052. Let's keep in mind that 30 years ago, not only were we not talking about issues like gay marriage, adoption, joining the military, etc. but homosexual activity was illegal. Progress in terms of public acceptance has been pretty remarkable.

[Tender Branson]

Contrary to the US, most Germans would have no problem with a homosexual chancellor, according to a new EMNID-poll. 79% would find it OK, 18% not.

German women think a gay chancellor is OK by 83-15 and men by 75-23. In the former West-German states the acceptance is at 87%, in the former East-German states it stands at 77%.

Klaus Wowereit, the current SPD mayor of Berlin for example is gay, but his chances to become chancellor are very low as the CDU is currently far ahead of the SPD and a SPD-Green-Left-Coalition seems unlikely at the moment.

http://www.zeit.de/news/artikel/2007/09/23/2385480.xml

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As for the question: I have no idea.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Without Carter then Reagan to stop the tide of cultural change(and slow it in areas where it DID advance like race/gays) we'd probably be only 5-10 years away from being willing to elect a gay president. A shame Ford lost in '76.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

German women think a gay chancellor is OK by 83-15 and men by 75-23. In the former West-German states the acceptance is at 87%, in the former East-German states it stands at 77%.

Surprising, considering the levels of religion in each.

[Eraserhead]

It is pretty hilarious that John Edwards is leading in the poll.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

German women think a gay chancellor is OK by 83-15 and men by 75-23. In the former West-German states the acceptance is at 87%, in the former East-German states it stands at 77%.

Surprising, considering the levels of religion in each.

Religion plays an incredibly small role in European politics as a whole.

[Verily]

German women think a gay chancellor is OK by 83-15 and men by 75-23. In the former West-German states the acceptance is at 87%, in the former East-German states it stands at 77%.

Surprising, considering the levels of religion in each.

Religion plays an incredibly small role in European politics as a whole.

More importantly, atheists in East Germany tend to be the unreformed communists, who are also very socially intolerant.

[minionofmidas]

German women think a gay chancellor is OK by 83-15 and men by 75-23. In the former West-German states the acceptance is at 87%, in the former East-German states it stands at 77%.

Surprising, considering the levels of religion in each.

Religion plays an incredibly small role in European politics as a whole.

More importantly, atheists in East Germany tend to be the unreformed communists, who are also very socially intolerant.

"Unreformed communists"? Lol.

[big bad fab]

Who will be the first Gay President?

Hillary Clinton !

Or Cheney's daughter !

[Josh/Devilman88]

ME

[Verily]

German women think a gay chancellor is OK by 83-15 and men by 75-23. In the former West-German states the acceptance is at 87%, in the former East-German states it stands at 77%.

Surprising, considering the levels of religion in each.

Religion plays an incredibly small role in European politics as a whole.

More importantly, atheists in East Germany tend to be the unreformed communists, who are also very socially intolerant.

"Unreformed communists"? Lol.

Hey, not all of them, but who would you say votes for Die Linkspartei? Socially conservative atheists are well-documented in the vast majority of former communist states, and East Germany is no exception.

[riceowl]

ME