Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 20, 2013, 03:43:20 pm
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Cast your ballot in the 2012 Mock Election!

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Election Archive
| |-+  2008 Elections
| | |-+  Could McCain, Obama, Or Clinton Make A "Quayle" Mistake?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Could McCain, Obama, Or Clinton Make A "Quayle" Mistake?  (Read 872 times)
LINCOLN REPUBLICAN
Winfield
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9832


View Profile
« on: February 09, 2008, 04:21:57 pm »
Ignore

Would it be possible for McCain, Obama, or Clinton, as the nominee, to make a "Quayle" mistake in the selection of their running mate?

Please discuss.
Logged




Eleden
oaksmarts
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 611


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 04:25:12 pm »
Ignore

Would it be possible for McCain, Obama, or Clinton, as the nominee, to make a "Quayle" mistake in the selection of their running mate?

Please discuss.

Clinton's Biggest Mistake

Selecting another woman.... or choosing Bill Clinton Smiley

Obama's Biggest Mistake

Selecting Hillary

McCain's Biggest Mistake

Selecting a moderate governor/senator.  He needs a conservative or he's going to get a ton of flak from GOP base.
Logged
So the Heroes Fall
BRTD
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 68117
Sweden


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 04:29:39 pm »
Ignore

Huckabee = Quayle
Logged

Frodo
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 12631
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2008, 04:31:44 pm »
Ignore

Yes, if McCain chooses Huckabee or anyone directly connected with the Bush administration (i.e. Condaleeza Rice). 
Logged

8 out of 11 is not deserved
pollwatch99-b
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 551


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2008, 04:34:14 pm »
Ignore

Other than Sanford, can you tell me who the conservatives would accept?  I'm serious with this question.  Seems like the conservatives don't have a candidate they can all agree on.  So I think he alienates conservatives anyway he goes other than Sanford

Obama should not select another woman like the Gov from Kansas.  He should select somebody strong on Foreign Policy matters.  I like Obama/Biden

Hillary...don't care who she picks.  I will not vote for her under any conditions

 
Logged

For 40 years since 1968, the republican party has won 7 out of 10 presidential contests.  Do they really deserve 8 out of 11?
8 out of 11 is not deserved
pollwatch99-b
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 551


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2008, 04:38:33 pm »
Ignore

Actually thinking about this some more.

Qualye would make the conservatives happy.  Sad but true ....
Logged

For 40 years since 1968, the republican party has won 7 out of 10 presidential contests.  Do they really deserve 8 out of 11?
WalterMitty
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 18825


Political Matrix
E: 1.68, S: -2.26

View Profile
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 04:40:13 pm »
Ignore

not likely.

i remember being very disappointed when dole picked kemp.
Logged

the individuals pictured below are freedom fighters:

I don't have time to argue pointless rhetoric.  I've got severe weather to track.

Politicus, those pictures get me very excited
J. J.
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 31872
United States


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 05:39:21 pm »
Ignore

Actually anyone asssociated with the Bush administration may help a bit with the conservatives.  Rice would.

A lot depends on who the Democrats nominate.
Logged

J. J.

"Actually, .. now that you mention it...." 
- Londo Molari

"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke

"Wa sala, wa lala."

(Zulu for, "You snooze, you lose.")
Frodo
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 12631
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 05:42:44 pm »
Ignore

Actually anyone asssociated with the Bush administration may help a bit with the conservatives.  Rice would.

With the job approval ratings that President Bush has, I doubt it.  A good mainstream conservative, establishment governor would help out more.
Logged

8 out of 11 is not deserved
pollwatch99-b
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 551


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 05:44:28 pm »
Ignore

names folks....

when you run the list, very few have conservative appeal.

the conservatives have gotten extreme
Logged

For 40 years since 1968, the republican party has won 7 out of 10 presidential contests.  Do they really deserve 8 out of 11?
Stranger in a strange land
strangeland
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6029
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.77, S: -3.83

View Profile
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 06:33:22 pm »
Ignore

Actually anyone asssociated with the Bush administration may help a bit with the conservatives.  Rice would.

she (or any other major bush administration figure) would hurt McCain far more than they would help him. The American people, including a good number of conservatives, view the Bush presidency as a failure and want to be done with it. Not to mention the damage it would do by destroying years of carefully-built-up good will among independents and moderate democrats.
Logged

JSojourner
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11688
United States


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -6.94

View Profile
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 06:38:18 pm »
Ignore

Huckabee = Quayle

Exactly.  Except Quayle was a tiny shade smarter.  (Not that this is saying much...)

But Republicans should not worry.  There are LOTS of competent, intelligent and capable people McCain can choose.  And I am pretty sure he will.  In fact, the only mistake I think he might make in this regard is the Huckster.  But I'm betting on Sanford, Owens or Crist -- all of whom are sharp guys.
Logged

JSojourner
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11688
United States


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -6.94

View Profile
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 06:46:18 pm »
Ignore

Other than Sanford, can you tell me who the conservatives would accept?  I'm serious with this question.  Seems like the conservatives don't have a candidate they can all agree on.  So I think he alienates conservatives anyway he goes other than Sanford

John Thune, Tom Coburn, Mike Pence, the aforementioned Sanford, a former governor like Frank Keating or Tommy Thompson, Duncan Hunter -- there are lots of conservatives McCain could choose who would not upset the far right.  But if you mean there are few who would excite the right without offending or scaring the center, you're absolutely right. I think Pence and Sanford would be his wisest choices, purely from a "winning in November" standpoint.  I honestly don't know if Pawlenty is sufficiently conservative enough to appease the far right.  This will be tricky for McCain, because if he tries too hard to enthrall the right -- particularly the religious right -- he will scare away the moderates and independents who might otherwise vote for him.  His age WILL be an issue in this regard, at least.

Obama should not select another woman like the Gov from Kansas.  He should select somebody strong on Foreign Policy matters.  I like Obama/Biden

Thank you.  I have been saying that, too.  It's not that I don't recognize people like Sebelius as rising stars, but independents and moderate Republicans who might cross over in November will be skittish without a foreign policy and/or military wonk on the ticket.
Hillary...don't care who she picks.  I will not vote for her under any conditions

 
Logged

MarkWarner08
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5861


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 06:49:48 pm »
Ignore

McCain has eight months to make the right (pun intended) pick.  If he fails after all that time and the help of leading Republican strategists, he'll be doomed as a President.
Logged

Prez Duke
AHDuke99
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16123


Political Matrix
E: -1.29, S: -6.35

View Profile
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 06:50:49 pm »
Ignore

I don't know a conservative that would run with McCain, honestly. I am thinking it will be Giuliani, but who knows. I am from SC, and I don't think Sanford wants to run for VP. He seems far too happy where he is.

On the other hand, my step mother is very good friends with Brooke Burr, the wife of Senator Burr of North Carolina, a big McCain supporter and conservative. She has gone from saying flat out that Burr will not be McCain's running mate to somewhat saying no. He may be a dark horse.
Logged

I call that getting swindled and pimped
JSojourner
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11688
United States


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -6.94

View Profile
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 07:05:28 pm »
Ignore

I don't know a conservative that would run with McCain, honestly. I am thinking it will be Giuliani, but who knows. I am from SC, and I don't think Sanford wants to run for VP. He seems far too happy where he is.

On the other hand, my step mother is very good friends with Brooke Burr, the wife of Senator Burr of North Carolina, a big McCain supporter and conservative. She has gone from saying flat out that Burr will not be McCain's running mate to somewhat saying no. He may be a dark horse.

Pence would desperately like to be McCain's running mate.  He's been told for 20 years that he's Presidential material -- since his days as a conservative talk radio host in Indiana.  Win or lose in 2008, McCain's Veep pick will be a frontrunner in 2012/2016. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Sanford didn't want the job.  He just seems like too nice a guy to be about climbing the ladder.  But nice guys have been VP's and Presidents before, so you never know. Sanford may be my favorite conservative currently -- and I don't like many of 'em.   ;-)
Logged

Gustaf
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 26101


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: -0.70

View Profile
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 07:53:45 pm »
Ignore

Sanford, or some other solid Southern conservative, would be the best pick against Clinton. But not against Obama.
Logged

This place really has become a cesspool of degenerate whores...

Economic score: +0.9
Social score: -2.61

In MN for fantasy stuff, member of the most recently dissolved centrist party.
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines
Forums Directory