President Forever results thread...

[Chareth Cutestory]

Aw, man...I forgot about this thread! I played for the first time in a while last week and got a ridiculously close result. It was one of the best campaigns I've run yet. It came down to a little over 100 votes in Washington and I won. I wish I saved the map!

I think it was something like this:


279-259

I remember spending way too much time defending the Northeast (because I was Obama facing Giuliani) and neglecting everywhere else. I started losing the Midwest near the end and thought I was done for when the whole area started going Republican. I won the popular vote by only a few thousand too. It was awesome...SO close

[Cincinnatus]

Bush/Quayle V Cuomo/Casey [w/ Perot]
281-257

Barely any states had a candidate see over 50%.  Bush beat Cuomo in Ohio by about 1800 votes, and Perot continued to get about 20% of the vote throughout most of the states.

[Jbrase]

2000 McCain vs Gore
very very very close race until the final week. tied at 43-43 each for nearly the entire game. Every time someone made gains somewhere they were cancled out by the other making gains somewhere else.

it looks like this going into the election:

[Governor NVGonzalez]

2004 Hard



Dean/Clark 310 EV's 47.8% 50,373,181
Bush/Cheney 228 EV's 47.8% 50,367,264
Nader 0 EV's 1.9% 1,997,581
Badnarik 0 EV's 1.5% 1,605,080
Peroutka 0 EV's 0.9% 952,996

This is probably the most intense campaign I have ever played. Being Howard Dean I was in a primary where nobody wanted to drop out. First person did not drop out until May and I had to use all my PIPs to convince Kerry to drop out a month before the convention. When the GE started I was down 6 points with not a lot of undecideds left so my only choice was to go negative on Bush and put many footsoldiers on the ground while I hope for scandals. By election night I was down by 1 but led in the EV count. My strategy succeeded as you can see. I ended up winning by less than a few thousand votes in the PV and didn't gain a PV vote lead until an hour before counting was complete.

[ChairmanSanchez]

Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)-273 EV, 46.3% of popular vote.
President George Bush (R-DC*)/Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)-265 EV, 47.4% of the popular vote.
Others-6.3% of the popular vote.

I played Kerry, and quickly used momentum to knock out all rivals. I won Iowa by a massive margin, Dean, my nearest opponent, got 9% of the vote. I won every early to middle primary, and no rival got more than 200 delegates. Near the end, Clark gave me a minor challenge, winning all the end primaries, but I had 2000 delegates to his 800. I also added Ron Paul as a primary candidate, with about 10% to Powell, who I edited to have 20%. Paul won Iowa, and Powell won NH. Chafee endorsed Paul and Powell fizzled out after South Carolina. Bush only won by 300 delegates, and Paul became his VP. So I assume Bush registered as a citizen of DC for that too work. I raised a ton of money and ran a negative campaign. But when the general started, I was down energy wise -175 because of a whole weeks worth of fundraisers. Still, adds, scandals, and spinning stories kept things tight, though Kerry did no campaigning for 3 weeks, and lost all 3 debates by massive margins. I made no media appearances. The race was called at 4:48 AM. I won New Hampshire by 704 votes, and by 146 votes in New Mexico.

[allnjhaugh]

Used NVGonzalez's new update (It's AMAZING),
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)-237 EV, 46,286,971 popular votes
Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)-217 EV, 45,533,806 popular votes
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Lance Brown (L-CA)-84 EV, 37,555,872 popular votes
Kent Mesplay (G-CA)/Grace Ross (G-IL)-0 EV, 104,797 popular votes

Obama absolutely would've won had I not ran as Johnson. Congress elected Obama.

[Jbrase]

Kennedy vs Carter 1980

Despite my best efforts, going all the way until the very end, I just couldn't beat him

[tb78]

The 2012 Scenario on the theoryspark site:



Trump/Christie- 333 EV's, 49%
Clinton/Obama(of all people)-205 EV's, 43.%
Root/Brown-0 EV's,3.5 %
Baldwin/Castle-0 EV's,4.4%

The Independents screwed me up in the Northeast, as they cost me Rhode island and Maine to Hillary. I came from behind to beat Romney, and Hillary won in an upset at the convention.

[ChairmanSanchez]

Weirdest game yet...The sucesser game to my last post here.

President John Kerry (D-MA)/Vice President Bill Richardson (D-NM)-352 EV, 51.4% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)-186 EV, 45.4% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)/Activist Mary Ruwart (L-TX)-0 EV, 3.2% of the popular vote.

I turned off all Democrats accept for Kerry, with Sharpton, Nader, and Kucinich being primary opponents.  I received no opposition, though. The Republican primaries were between Romney and Paul, before Rudy won big on Super Tuesday. Up until the last week, Rudy was leading. A few good ads changed that

 Edit: Used the wrong map, but it was pretty much right. Same percentages and states, same number I listed below the map, just differant numbers on the map.

[tb78]

Wormyguy's 68 scenario (I played as Wallace):



Nixon/Agnew- 347 EV's,36.9%
Johnson/Humphrey- 111 EV's,33.1%
Wallace/Lemay- 80 EV's, 30%

Tossup States:

Delaware: Nixon beat Johnson by 204 votes.
California: Nixon beat Johnson by .04% or 64,000
Florida: Wallace beat Nixon by .08% or 45,000
Idaho: Nixon beat Wallace by 1.1%
Arizona: Nixon beat Wallace by 1.7%
Kansas: Nixon beat Wallace by 2.2%
Ohio: Nixon beat Johnson by 2.5%
Maryland: Nixon beat Johnson by 2.7%
New York: Johnson beat Nixon by 3%
Alaska: Nixon beat Johnson by 4%
Indiana:Nixon beat Johnson by 5.4%
Nevada: Nixon beat Johnson by 7%
Utah: Nixon beat Wallace by 7%
South Dakota: Nixon beat Johnson by 8.1%

[Jerseyrules]

Does anyone know when 2012 comes out?  Or are they just adding the 2012 scenario as an update, and not make a new game?  (I can't decide whether to wait till the new game version comes out )

[Secretary Polnut]

KENNEDY V REAGAN - 1980

I started off being spanked

I had clear leads in only MN, GA, DC and MA at points, and was down by 7% in the general polls.

But in the last 3 weeks, I engaged in saturation advertising and focusing on the Rust Belt, the Northeast, the Mississippi Corridor as well as California.

I suddenly surged and in the final polls I had closed the gap to only 3%...



Kennedy/Glenn - 299EV - 43.9%
Reagan/Bush - 239EV - 44%
Anderson/Lucey - 0EV - 12.1%

I did lose the popular vote, but only by 109,000

[ChairmanSanchez]

2010 Arizona Senate Election.

Senator John McCain (R-AZ)-904,360 votes (56.0%).
Activist David Nolan (L-AZ)-365,579 votes (22.6%).
Former Governor Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)-329,209 votes (20.4%).
Activist Jerry Joslyn (G-AZ)-16,684 votes (1.0%).

I played Nolan. My strategy? Footsoldiers! Footsoldiers! Footsoldiers! Every county, every week, new ones were made. I edited the game slightly to give Nolan one crusader, in the form of Ron Paul. I came within 4% of Apache county. I figure I was the "Tea Party" candidate.

Edit: I got my colors confused. I also realized colors is "colors" not "colars".....

[Jerseyrules]

So is there going to be a 2012 full game or just the added scenario to p4e 08?

[Nagas]

2012 Scenario:



Newt Gingrich/Mitt Romney 452 EV, 57.7% PV
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 86 EV, 42.7% PV

Obama was leading until the final week by about 48-44. On the eve of the election I had 268 EVs in my pocket. Good ad strategy, foot soldiers, and strong third debate performance.

In the primary I edged out Cain in Iowa and New Hampshire and got a nice national boost. Cain beat me in SC/FL however, and Romney took every Feb state except for Arizona (which I won by a hair). Cain, Romney, and Gingrich split Super Tuesday and eventually I rebounded, gaining the endorsements of everyone who dropped out, and secured the nomination with California with about ~54% of the delegates. Picked Romney as VP to  hammer Obama faster.

2012 Scenario is fun. Some states need to be fixed though.

[Jbrase]

I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

[Governor NVGonzalez]

I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

[Jbrase]

I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

[Nagas]

I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.

[Governor NVGonzalez]

I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.

Good to know that my scenario easily defeats the scenario that the actual game developers actually released

Though yes such a horrible scenario.. I played and I was amazed at how horrible it was.

[ChairmanSanchez]

I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.

Good to know that my scenario easily defeats the scenario that the actual game developers actually released

Though yes such a horrible scenario.. I played and I was amazed at how horrible it was.

I love your scenario

[tb78]

1976:



Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms-280 EV's,47.7% PV
Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale-259 EV's,51.2% PV
Eugene McCarthy-1.1% of the PV

This is probably the weirdest game I have ever seen on PF. I played as McCarthy and spaced my way through the game, and Carter mostly dominated the race. Reagan won the last two debates, and Helms barely beat Mondale in the VP debate. In the final pre polls Carter was expected to win big time by winning NY and Texas. But on Election Day, Carter lost both and won Montana and Oklahoma instead, which was unexpected.  McCarthy had 0.5% in the polls and ended up with 1% out of nowhere. I have to admit this was entertaining to watch play out.

[ChairmanSanchez]

Using the March 2007 edition....

Total results are displayed. Johnson got 8% in Alabama, otherwise, he averaged around 1-4%. It was Locke/Clark vs Romney/Cheney. I was Locke, who I made this afternoon. I started with a strategy of winning NH, NV, Georgia, and Delaware. I expanded into Iowa in August, which I won. I won NH with 45% of the vote, and NV with 50% of the vote. Obama got knocked down quickly, and endorsed me after Super Tuesday. Richardson and Edwards won alot of states, and Biden built up a small mass of delagates, but my real battle was with Hillary. It went to the convention, which I won by 1000 delagates after Richardson and Edwards endorsed me. Romney had no competition it seemed, but then again, I put Hagel, Frist, Allen, Pataki, and Gingrich on as well, so votes were split.

[Secretary Polnut]

I decided to try Obama v Santorum... I had him pick Susana Martinez as his VP choice.

It was actually incredibly close with neither Obama or Santorum breaking 44% until the last 3 weeks, with I started to spin like crazy and saturation advertising and Obama started to pull away eventually with a 47-44% lead on election day... and this was the map.



So Obama was already at 316 EV

and when all said and done...



Obama/Biden: 405EV - 55%
Santorum/Martinez: 133EV - 44.1%
Others: 0.9%

[Hashemite]

2012:



Perry/DeMint 55.7% and 358 EV
Obama/Biden 44.3% and 180 EV

Always kinda screwy. Hard to ever get a very close/down to the wire election night on PFP, I only recall getting that once playing as Edwards in 2004.

80% in Wyoming, 81% in Utah, 76% in Texas... lol