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Teddy
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #630 on:
November 03, 2009, 05:00:29 am »
I apologize in advance for spelling errors, as I'm writing this in notepad, and not chrome.
The strength of the Liberals in Northern Oakville is a bit odd, but I guess Turner had something to do with that.
I'm a bit surprised at how solid central Mississauga is, and how blue the South and West are.
I'm wondering if Peter Kent is Jewish. Most of the blue areas are in and around Bathurst street, known for being jewish. Nothing in the york region surprises me beyond the strength of the Liberals in the urban areas.
PEI does not surprise me. I used to live there remember. The blue area in the middle riding (at the upper left) is the Kensington area, it is in Prince County (as is Egmont, the riding the Tories won) and hence this part of the riding is much closer to Egmont. Given that, I'm not surprised the Tories won here given they won Egmont. The Liberal strength in Cardigan is a bit more surprising, and I think it has to do with the Local Candidate.
Calgary is boring. I do wish, however, to point out how much 'brighter' blue certain ridigns are. West, East, the two Centre ridings, and the Northwest. Ignore all the red - its just a huge empty poll.
In Quebec. The uniformity of the Bloc win is something that is unique to the party. Condo or Farm, City or Town, Old ot Young, Man or Woman, support for the Bloc does not vary much. I am though surprised at how much support the Liberals have in Brossard
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mileslunn
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #631 on:
November 03, 2009, 07:49:34 am »
Quote from: Teddy on November 03, 2009, 05:00:29 am
I apologize in advance for spelling errors, as I'm writing this in notepad, and not chrome.
The strength of the Liberals in Northern Oakville is a bit odd, but I guess Turner had something to do with that.
I'm a bit surprised at how solid central Mississauga is, and how blue the South and West are.
I'm wondering if Peter Kent is Jewish. Most of the blue areas are in and around Bathurst street, known for being jewish. Nothing in the york region surprises me beyond the strength of the Liberals in the urban areas.
PEI does not surprise me. I used to live there remember. The blue area in the middle riding (at the upper left) is the Kensington area, it is in Prince County (as is Egmont, the riding the Tories won) and hence this part of the riding is much closer to Egmont. Given that, I'm not surprised the Tories won here given they won Egmont. The Liberal strength in Cardigan is a bit more surprising, and I think it has to do with the Local Candidate.
Calgary is boring. I do wish, however, to point out how much 'brighter' blue certain ridigns are. West, East, the two Centre ridings, and the Northwest. Ignore all the red - its just a huge empty poll.
In Quebec. The uniformity of the Bloc win is something that is unique to the party. Condo or Farm, City or Town, Old ot Young, Man or Woman, support for the Bloc does not vary much. I am though surprised at how much support the Liberals have in Brossard
Northern Oakville unlike Northern Burlington has always been more Liberal than the southern part. Most of it is built up so very little farmland and also it is more middle class. The Southern parts, especially near the lake tend to be more affluent, thus the Conservative strength. It is true the Liberals did well amongst the wealthy in the 90s, but that was when the Reform/Alliance were seen as a little too extreme (most wealthy are educated too) and also they balanced the budget and reduced taxes, thus were centre-right in many ways, whereas now it is hard to tell where they are and some even suspect they would take a more activist approach.
In the case of Mississauga, asides from Mississauga South, my guess, although I could be wrong is the Tory polls are the predominately WASP areas whereas the Liberals did better in areas with large immigrant and visible minority communities.
In the case of Thornhill, Peter Kent was not Jewish, but the Tories strong pro-Israel stances likely played a role here. You can also see the same thing in certain parts of York Centre and Eglinton-Lawrence which were the Tories two best ridings in the 416. Mind you, it was more the orthodox Jews that went massively Conservative, the liberal ones mostly went liberal as was the case in Willowdale and St. Paul's.
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Linus Van Pelt
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #632 on:
November 03, 2009, 09:27:19 am »
Quote from: mileslunn on November 03, 2009, 07:49:34 am
In the case of Mississauga, asides from Mississauga South, my guess, although I could be wrong is the Tory polls are the predominately WASP areas whereas the Liberals did better in areas with large immigrant and visible minority communities.
The Liberal parts of Mississauga South are basically white working-class (though not poor) areas - in the west is the old town of Clarkson which is the traditional bedroom community for Oakville Ford Assembly across the city line, and the eastern end bordering Etobicoke is sort of Continental/white/Catholic - Portuguese, Polish etc. (though like Woodbridge for the Italians, mostly a bit younger and more affluent than those who still live in the original European-immigrant areas on the west side of Toronto proper.)
Edit: Ayah, Linus, read: yes, you said "aside from Mississauga South", not "in" it. So let's just say my post complements yours rather than correcting it.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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November 03, 2009, 05:24:52 pm »
White working-class but probably white-ethnic working-class (Portuguese, Eastern European, Italian) rather than white English working-class, no?
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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November 03, 2009, 08:23:03 pm »
I'd heard Peter Kent is Jewish, and that was from someone on his campaign team.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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November 03, 2009, 11:13:03 pm »
Quote from: Smid on November 03, 2009, 08:23:03 pm
I'd heard Peter Kent is Jewish, and that was from someone on his campaign team.
He doesn't look like a Jew.
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mileslunn
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #636 on:
November 04, 2009, 12:26:00 am »
I don't think Peter Kent is Jewish. He is very pro-Israel, but there are many non-Jewish who are quite pro-Israel on foreign policy.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #637 on:
November 04, 2009, 05:54:23 am »
Yeah, I was wrong, he's not Jewish. My friend was responsible for running the campaign to convince Jewish voters to support him, though.
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adma
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #638 on:
November 05, 2009, 12:12:57 am »
Through his Global TV associations (the Asper family et al), Peter Kent might as well be "Jewish by proxy".
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mileslunn
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #639 on:
November 07, 2009, 08:57:29 pm »
Anybody have the Durham Regional Municipality as that would be interesting. Also Kingston (and also include the Islands) would be good, while Peterborough, just the city only.
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mileslunn
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #640 on:
November 12, 2009, 09:04:36 pm »
Any more requests for maps by municipality or region.
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Linus Van Pelt
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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November 13, 2009, 09:16:34 am »
Quote from: mileslunn on November 12, 2009, 09:04:36 pm
Any more requests for maps by municipality or region.
Do you have BC by municipality?
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mileslunn
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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November 16, 2009, 08:35:02 pm »
If somebody could supply me with a map, I could try giving it a go, but might be tough as much of BC is unincorporate territory. After all the large swaths of the province that are completely uninhabited, whereas in the Maritimes, St. Lawrence Valley, and Southern Ontario that is not the case.
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